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Post by danrhodes on Jun 15, 2020 17:44:02 GMT -8
Why do you cut the windows and door out before installing the walls?
Why wouldn't you? Way easier to trim laying flat. If you have the existing framing, the openings are going to fall in the same place regardless of the orientation. |
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Post by nccamper on Jun 15, 2020 18:18:04 GMT -8
Why do you cut the windows and door out before installing the walls?
Why wouldn't you? Way easier to trim laying flat. If you have the existing framing, the openings are going to fall in the same place regardless of the orientation. I wonder if leaving the windows and door uncut would give the wall more support so that it didn’t flex/twist while it was being handled.
Tom, I look forward to seeing how you mount the wall in place. My system for larger pieces involves friends, family and neighbors pressed into service. I'm always looking for a lower pressure, more relaxed way.
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Post by shastatom on Jun 16, 2020 4:10:53 GMT -8
Why wouldn't you? Way easier to trim laying flat. If you have the existing framing, the openings are going to fall in the same place regardless of the orientation. I wonder if leaving the windows and door uncut would give the wall more support so that it didn’t flex/twist while it was being handled.
Tom, I look forward to seeing how you mount the wall in place. My system for larger pieces involves friends, family and neighbors pressed into service. I'm always looking for a lower pressure, more relaxed way.
To hang the walls will be done in some act of desperation and most likely alone or with my wife not happy with me. |
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Post by danrhodes on Jun 16, 2020 9:59:00 GMT -8
Why wouldn't you? Way easier to trim laying flat. If you have the existing framing, the openings are going to fall in the same place regardless of the orientation. I wonder if leaving the windows and door uncut would give the wall more support so that it didn’t flex/twist while it was being handled.
Tom, I look forward to seeing how you mount the wall in place. My system for larger pieces involves friends, family and neighbors pressed into service. I'm always looking for a lower pressure, more relaxed way.
I guess I should have known that since the wife and I broken the upper door framing putting it into place. Our framing was very floppy though, mostly leaving the old, loose staples. Our wall was light enough that just installing some cleats under the floor let us lift it and place then hold without too much work. |
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Post by nccamper on Jun 16, 2020 10:29:32 GMT -8
I wonder if a long 2x4 temporarily screwed across the entire wall (frame side) would hold it rigid and act as a handle on each end to hold it?
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Post by shastatom on Jun 16, 2020 12:30:59 GMT -8
I will screw some cleats under the 2x3 floor joist for the wall to sit on . The question is if I will do both walls at the same time by putting a couple boards along the top while the walls are on the floor and then move them up on the cleats and then screw them in. May need to add a couple other supporting boardso on the outside to make sure they don't fold over.
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Post by nccamper on Jun 16, 2020 13:14:19 GMT -8
It always interests me how members find a way to reverse engineer the camper, invent ways to work without an assembly line, work alone a lot of the time, work outside a lot of the time without cover, work without a clear template because of rot, work without specialty tools, and still end up with a better camper than the factory originally produced.
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Post by danrhodes on Jun 16, 2020 13:27:27 GMT -8
I wonder if a long 2x4 temporarily screwed across the entire wall (frame side) would hold it rigid and act as a handle on each end to hold it? Sorry to Tom for hijacking this thread, and he should let us know if we should remove this chatter but I did have two pieces of plywood spanning the door opening and the upper framing still broke. I think it just got away from one of us, so maybe a more careful moving would have been OK. |
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Post by shastatom on Jun 16, 2020 18:01:03 GMT -8
I think the forum and this thread is meant to give me and others ideas of what to do during a time in the build so don't worry about it
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Post by shastatom on Jun 16, 2020 19:08:20 GMT -8
Tonight, I worked on putting a couple layers of poly on the walls and added the cleats to the bottom of the 2x3s so when the walls are ready I can use them to hold the walls up.
The other thing I will do is take the axle off again once I am ready to attach the walls. This will take the frame do to a couple inches off the floor and that will make it easier to put on the walls.
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Post by shastatom on Jun 17, 2020 18:40:29 GMT -8
Tonight my son came out and helped sand the walls to take what I help is the final coat.
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Post by Teachndad on Jun 20, 2020 4:04:28 GMT -8
Ohhhh,Man!!
I had been away for a while and came back to the thread and was following it along, hoping to see the walls get put up in this reading of the thread. I am not disappointed, though. One of the nice things about being away and coming back, is (and especially) with Tom's fast build is you can come back and see the great progress in one sitting.
The wall mount discussion is very helpful to me as it's something I will have to look at with my Westerner build. Thanks Tom for leading the way.
Cheers,
Rod
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Post by theresa on Jun 21, 2020 14:47:33 GMT -8
It always interests me how members find a way to reverse engineer the camper, invent ways to work without an assembly line, work alone a lot of the time, work outside a lot of the time without cover, work without a clear template because of rot, work without specialty tools, and still end up with a better camper than the factory originally produced. It's because most of us want and end result that's safe, sturdy and sound... the "INSERT BRAND NAME HERE" factory only saw revenue as an end result. |
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Post by shastatom on Jun 21, 2020 15:46:31 GMT -8
Today I took the axle off, and lowered the frame onto dollies. I then decided to dry fit the walls. I did it all by my self.  20200621_181300 by Tom Ress, on Flickr My son will come out tomorrow to help me put the walls on. |
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Post by shastatom on Jun 22, 2020 18:24:57 GMT -8
Well, my son and daughter in law came out and helped me put the walls on. It went very fast and then we sanded the upper kitchen cabinets.  20200622_211008 by Tom Ress, on Flickr |
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