63airflyte
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Post by 63airflyte on Jun 24, 2013 9:46:15 GMT -8
I'm glad you made it home safely, all 3 of you. I was worried about you. Good luck with the restore!
Kim
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Post by boandsusan on Jun 24, 2013 10:47:31 GMT -8
I don't know, I think you had a much worse weekend than me! Not that this is a competition that either of us wnat to win! Just a FYI you mention that the interior was birch, it is actually ash. No big deal but birch is a smooth closed grain wood like maple, and ash is a rougher open grain like oak, they won't match if you replace panels with birch. Great job fixing it up to get it home, it almost appears to be campable in the last few pics! Your right on.....with the Ash. I was going to post a close up picture this evening. Its also much lighter than the birch. We could actually camp in it this weekend . I`ll take pics this afternoon once we put the table, cushions etc back in place.
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Post by 65callie on Jun 24, 2013 14:18:21 GMT -8
OMG! I can't even imagine. Yup, we would have just put up a "curb alert" on the local Craigslist and skiddaddled back home. Well, I guess not really. We probably would have cried, cussed, and drank (not necessarily in that order) and then spent a week doing what you did in 1 day. You guys rock!!
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Post by lamacki1 on Jun 24, 2013 18:25:26 GMT -8
OMG, Susan. I wanted to cry for you just looking at the photos. You guys are phenomenal to get that done in 12 hours. I am so happy that all of you are home safely. Can't wait to see what she (?) looks like when she's all prettied up.
Awesome job.
Barbara
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Post by 65callie on Jun 24, 2013 19:26:09 GMT -8
Be sure to post what hotel in what city was so good to you. Sounds like they were really nice.
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Post by Bow_Tied on Jun 24, 2013 19:49:16 GMT -8
Great story, tough experience. Sounds like you are on your way to recovery, cool.
Can you post what you think was the failure mechanism? such as 'rot in the RR corner on the bottom of the wall' or whatever you think was the starting point that caused the whole thing to start to sag? 'Cause, whatever it was, I want to double check my trailer!
Thanks so much for posting.
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Post by boandsusan on Jun 24, 2013 20:04:59 GMT -8
Your right on.....with the Ash. I was going to post a close up picture this evening. Its also much lighter than the birch. We could actually camp in it this weekend . I`ll take pics this afternoon once we put the table, cushions etc back in place. They did a weird finish on the Ash, it not quite a white wash but almost a yellow wash. Yeah and I don`t like it. I noticed it the minute we were able to open the door and took an instant did like for it. I`m going to sand a patch and see how she takes shellac. If it darkens some then we`ll go with it, otherwise I`d like to rip the lot out and start over with birth.
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Post by boandsusan on Jun 24, 2013 20:31:27 GMT -8
Great story, tough experience. Sounds like you are on your way to recovery, cool. Can you post what you think was the failure mechanism? such as 'rot in the RR corner on the bottom of the wall' or whatever you think was the starting point that caused the whole thing to start to sag? 'Cause, whatever it was, I want to double check my trailer! Thanks so much for posting. The bottom of all the lower walls on this one is untreated 3/4 x 3/4. These 3/4 x3/4`s are attached to the treated 2x4s surrounding the main metal frame, and so are the only thing holding the walls up. Once these rot the walls slip down as they have nothing else holding them to the main frame. The roadside wall was the worse. With the 1100 mile trip the vibration of simply going down the road caused all the rotten wood to drop out. When we look at a trailer we ALWAYS feel up and behind the very bottom of the skin. You can feel the treated 2x4 attached to the metal frame. What your feeling for is the horizontal bottom framing board(the wall) between the skin and the treated 2x4. Its usually bad behind the wheel wells and across the rear. I purchased this one from pictures as it was 1700 miles away and so couldn`t inspect it. I would still have bought this one had I found all the rot around the lower framing but I would have braced it with T`s from floor to ceiling prior to pulling it. The T`s would have prevented the walls from dropping. We also screwed the t`s to the floor and ceiling. Its really my own fault as I paid the PO to put brand new trailer tires on her and grease the bearings but I didn`t think to have him put a few T supports in her. I hope everyone looking for a camper remembers these pictures. Also those members who have bought a trailer and are using it until they have time to do a restore....PLEASE check your lower framing.
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Post by Hamlet on Jun 25, 2013 10:26:51 GMT -8
Great story, tough experience. Sounds like you are on your way to recovery, cool. Can you post what you think was the failure mechanism? such as 'rot in the RR corner on the bottom of the wall' or whatever you think was the starting point that caused the whole thing to start to sag? 'Cause, whatever it was, I want to double check my trailer! Thanks so much for posting. The bottom of all the lower walls on this one is untreated 3/4 x 3/4. These 3/4 x3/4`s are attached to the treated 2x4s surrounding the main metal frame, and so are the only thing holding the walls up. Once these rot the walls slip down as they have nothing else holding them to the main frame. The roadside wall was the worse. With the 1100 mile trip the vibration of simply going down the road caused all the rotten wood to drop out. When we look at a trailer we ALWAYS feel up and behind the very bottom of the skin. You can feel the treated 2x4 attached to the metal frame. What your feeling for is the horizontal bottom framing board(the wall) between the skin and the treated 2x4. Its usually bad behind the wheel wells and across the rear. I purchased this one from pictures as it was 1700 miles away and so couldn`t inspect it. I would still have bought this one had I found all the rot around the lower framing but I would have braced it with T`s from floor to ceiling prior to pulling it. The T`s would have prevented the walls from dropping. We also screwed the t`s to the floor and ceiling. Its really my own fault as I paid the PO to put brand new trailer tires on her and grease the bearings but I didn`t think to have him put a few T supports in her. I hope everyone looking for a camper remembers these pictures. Also those members who have bought a trailer and are using it until they have time to do a restore....PLEASE check your lower framing. This is absolutely the most important message that you could have given to folks who are getting a trailer. This is what those of us always think of as a worst case scenario, and it just shows that even the most experienced of us can forget or be lulled into a false sense of security. I wish there was a way to surround this in bright orange and post it at the top of one of the boards for all wanna be owners to see. It may not happen often, but it is a potential with almost any of these old trailers. Thank you for your posts!
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Post by HOTRODPRIMER on Jun 25, 2013 13:01:16 GMT -8
This is the main reason I am hesitant to purchase a trailer that I can't personally inspect,,These old camper are like classic cars,,they can look great to the casual observers but it's the hidden frame work & bracing that are out of sight that can bite you when you least expect it.
I've never rebuilt a camper but I have restored a few cars and done plenty of remodeling on homes so I'm not afraid of tackling a major project but sure would hate to have to do a parking lot fix like you guys faced.
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Post by therev on Jun 25, 2013 13:59:51 GMT -8
holy smokes !!!! ...Im well know for my 'gongshow' roadtrips...but that wins by a bunch if that had been me....it woulda been a bonfire !!! fantastic job of roadside repair !!!!probably better than most restos ! (sorry...new guy...i tried to do a intro last nite and it crashed..will do one tonite)
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Post by boandsusan on Jun 25, 2013 20:15:52 GMT -8
I'm glad you made it home safely, all 3 of you. I was worried about you. Good luck with the restore! Kim Thanks Kim. This makes 3 in all. 2 needing full restores and Mr Sam (you`ve met). Mr Sam is nearly finished and we work on him between camping trips. We probably won`t start the restore on this one until next year as we are expecting 2 more in. One we hope to have ready by Spring and the other maybe by Summer. Then we`ll start on this one.
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Post by swirlygirls on Jun 26, 2013 3:30:47 GMT -8
OMG I am in awe of what you two did in a hot parking lot without most of your tools. I was lucky in that when I found my trailer (1960 Oasis) the only thing I "knew" was that I didn't know anything and so I convinced the seller to deliver it. What a cautionary tale your story is for all trailer buyers. I look forward to watching the rebuild. I'm so glad you're home safely.
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Post by saphie113 on Jun 26, 2013 11:45:24 GMT -8
I'm in the middle of trying to transport my new trailer 1000 miles and this is giving me nightmares.
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Post by modernme on Jun 26, 2013 21:08:49 GMT -8
So glad that you were able to make this awful experience turn out as well as it did. I am in awe of how you handled it. That would have been more than I could have coped with. It really makes me count my blessings. Twice I have bought trailers sight unseen and driven out to pick them up and tow them home to California. Once from Wenatchee, Washington and once from Denver, Colorado. But you can bet that before I tow either of them again, I will be checking out the condition of the wood along the bottom of the sides!
Glad you are all safe!
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