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Post by RinTin on Mar 26, 2015 13:23:10 GMT -8
We (my wife Martha and I) purchased this trailer in the spring of 2013 with the intention to use while our other trailer, a 1957 Jewel, underwent its extensive restoration. Our hope was to find a vintage trailer that needed only a few minor repairs and some sprucing up that we could use until the Jewel was completed. While we may have been able to get by as planned, things changed and the Aloha evolved into a complete rebuild. We began by removing the carpeting which had been installed over the original vinyl flooring by a previous owner. The carpet was a thin, rubber backed product that was very well installed with spray-on contact cement. We hoped to save the original vinyl floor but this was impossible so both layers of flooring were stripped to the plywood underlayment. Looking at the bottom of the cabinets you can see how the carpet was installed. What appeared to be a rubberized primer was first applied over the entire surface, and then contact cement was sprayed over that. I have used spray grade contact cement in my former cabinet making business and easily recognized the typical red color and spray pattern. During this phase we also removed and refurbished the range, replaced the entry door lockset, painted the kitchen upper and lower cabinets, thoroughly cleaned all surfaces, replaced the roof vent, touched up the paneling and many other tasks that in hindsight were largely a waste of time and effort. However, there are always lessons to be learned which can prove to be valuable. This is as far as we got in 2013.
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Post by RinTin on Mar 26, 2015 18:35:21 GMT -8
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Post by RinTin on Mar 26, 2015 19:23:14 GMT -8
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Post by SusieQ on Mar 26, 2015 19:27:20 GMT -8
I just love your rot pics! They gave me flashbacks.
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Post by vikx on Mar 26, 2015 20:31:32 GMT -8
Me too, great pix. If you're not already done, one way to save the original ceiling panels is to glue a piece of 1/4" plywood as a backer. I did that on my Oasis and it really strengthened the panel. Of course, the inside has to look good...
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Post by RinTin on Mar 27, 2015 6:33:59 GMT -8
Me too, great pix. If you're not already done, one way to save the original ceiling panels is to glue a piece of 1/4" plywood as a backer. I did that on my Oasis and it really strengthened the panel. Of course, the inside has to look good... Now that's a neat little trick, I like the drywall screw hold downs.
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Post by SusieQ on Mar 27, 2015 6:37:59 GMT -8
And Gorilla glue!
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Post by vikx on Mar 27, 2015 10:44:05 GMT -8
Lots of Nasty Gorilla glue...
Most of the time, I take the screws out. It this particular trailer, because of where the patch was, I left them. No chance of the glue popping.
The trailer had very good paneling inside EXCEPT right below a leaky solar panel. The screw caulking had failed and left bad spots, especially inside the front cabinet. A little paint inside the cupboard and the backer worked well. Strong.
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Post by RinTin on Mar 28, 2015 10:46:52 GMT -8
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Post by vikx on Mar 29, 2015 21:18:53 GMT -8
Looking better every picture!
Another thought: Our 66 Aloha had very bad roof metal. Turned out it had tiny pinholes all over. You could see daylight. Inspect the roof metal very carefully before reusing it.
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Post by RinTin on Mar 30, 2015 7:40:33 GMT -8
Another thought: Our 66 Aloha had very bad roof metal. Turned out it had tiny pinholes all over. You could see daylight. Inspect the roof metal very carefully before reusing it. Glad you mentioned the roof metal. I've been considering how to deal with it. All the leaks along the roof edges are at roof seam locations. The metal is coated with silver slop and some genius globbed roofing tar over a good sized area also. I really don't want to deal with the coatings but will if it makes sense. I haven't yet checked for pinholes but will be sure to do so. Is it likely that the leaks were caused by the drip rail putty failing and water migrating up behind the bend in the roof metal then up and over the side metal? Is it likely that the roof metal seams failed at those spots? I suppose both are possible and there is really no way to tell for sure. I don't like the idea of re-using the old roof metal if the seams are questionable. This brings me to another dilemma. I really like the looks of the breaks in the roof metal, they give a cascading effect and are a characteristic of this trailer I'd like to retain. The original roof metal is a continuous, seamed piece extending from just above the front window all the way around to the bottom of the rear end. If I replace the roof metal, I'd prefer it to be a single continuous flat seamless sheet. The existing roof has an "S" seam (not sure if that is the correct name) just below the front window cutout. For the new roof metal I would use this same location at the front. Although I would lose the break pattern on the front curve, I don't think it would look out of place as the roof pattern ends at the window seam and there are a lot of other things going on in the front. That's a long winded way of getting to my questions. To retain the maximum amount of the original metal pattern, how high can I locate the new roof metal "S" seam at the rear? I know it would be best to place it at the bottom of the rear curve but I'd like to go higher. Can I safely locate it at the halfway point of the curve? Can I go even higher? Is there an alternative seaming method I can use to pull this off? Any other suggestions? Thanks
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Post by vikx on Mar 30, 2015 11:08:01 GMT -8
The S seams you describe are most likely Pittsburg seams. The lower metal slips up into the groove. To shorten or lengthen the metal, you have to have a piece(s) to cover the newly sized gap. So, changing the roof length will alter the rest on down. Here is the configuration on many trailers: See how the roof metal stops and the window pieces are short? This allows a person to cut to fit on these short pieces. They are ordered with the Pittsburg at the bottom. The lowest piece of metal slips up into the seam after necessary trimming for the window. The roof can be ordered with a pattern on the front/back 3 or more feet with the Pittsburg seam. The top can be smooth or patterned; I pattern mine. I've had no problem with NEW seamed roofs leaking. Here's the lower back slipped up and in: Most roof leaks are at the edges from failed putty; a few at the vent or other roof protrusions. Factory roof seams are sealed and don't fail unless the metal is bent/compromised. There are ways to seal bent seams (sticky tape on the underside, Proflex along the top) but not worth it if you can go with new metal. If your seams are leaking, I would replace the roof metal, especially since it is coated. Pinholes can be very difficult to see/find with a coated roof. As long as the back metal is good (no coatings/holes), you should be able to seam the back mid curve. The higher you go, the more chance of a leak. As said, ordering the pattern for so many feet and a factory seam would be a better seal. Here, the roof metal stops below the back window: Hope this helps.
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Post by RinTin on Mar 30, 2015 13:35:25 GMT -8
Yes, that helps, thank-you. Indeed, the seam I am referring to is the Pittsburgh Seam:
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I have no way to determine with any certainty that the original roof metal is leak free so I have pretty decided that it will be replaced.
The new roof metal will terminate with this seam at the front and back ends. The front seam will be located in the exact place as the original roof metal and I will re-use the original metal flanking the windows. At the rear of my trailer, the curve of the roof becomes vertical right at the top of the rear window. I could locate the rear seam here but would prefer to place it well above the rear window in order to retain as much of the original pattern as possible. I can trim the old metal and re-use it to fit the new seam location. Unless there is a proven method to use this seam up higher, I won't be doing it, as you said "the higher you go, the more chance of a leak".
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