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Post by midwestmike on May 10, 2020 19:58:35 GMT -8
lo Everyone!
I have recently been blessed with the companionship of a Shasta Trailer. The under trailer frame is completely rusted through on one side. Has anyone had any success removing the shell and putting it on a new trailer frame? or What are my best options here I'm not sure what to do. Any ballpark figures for what this might run me would be helpful too. I'll try to attach some photos hopefully it works!
Thank you
Mike
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Post by vikx on May 10, 2020 20:50:45 GMT -8
Hi Mike,
I replaced a 58 Cardinal frame. It was donated by a ruined 69 Scamper. I had to widen the Cardinal by 2" and lengthen by about 12". (length was added because I wanted a door wider than 19") It didn't cost much as you can guess.
Your trailer might be a Starflyte and 17 feet? It will take a larger frame than most of my trailers. If you are looking for a donor trailer, measure width and length carefully. We normally take them down to the frame anyway to do repairs, so the work isn't that difficult.
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Post by nccamper on May 11, 2020 4:40:47 GMT -8
Welcome! You must live someplace wet. You have a few choices. Raise the camper and Pull off the frame and take it to a welding shop or trailer repair shop. Or as vikx said, find a donor camper with a solid frame then take the frame to the welder and ask him to change the out-rigging supports to match you camper. I've wondered if these Karavan utility trailers could be retrofit for such a use. Not cheap at $1800 but new and it can easily support the weight.  I also strongly urge you to remove the skin and check for framing rot if you see signs of water damage inside.
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Post by shastatom on May 11, 2020 8:00:50 GMT -8
That camper is kind of common compared to older model shastas so I would look for another camper that is trashed but has a good frame and do a transplant.
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Post by midwestmike on May 11, 2020 10:44:41 GMT -8
Hello Everyone!
Thanks for all the advice!
The frame it self doesn't look very complicated or expensive to reproduce wouldn't it be cheaper to have some one fabricate one?
Either buying another trailer or making a new one from scratch.
Do you think outsourcing this entire task would exceed 4,ooo$?
Thank you
Mike
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Post by nccamper on May 11, 2020 17:46:48 GMT -8
Although the materials to recreate the frame are cheap, labor is almost never cheap. Plus you would need the springs/shackles/axle/coupler.
If you spent $4000 on it you would be investing more than the camper is worth. If it has some personal value, it may not matter.
You might find an old 1970s/80s camper in rough shape for a few hundred dollars. A weekend of demo and you will be the owner of a frame. If it's the same size more or less, maybe even a Shasta, you could pay to get the retrofit done cheaper than recreating the wheel.
Is it rotted through in several places or really bad in one or two areas? Like behind the wheel wells.
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Post by aslmx on May 11, 2020 18:38:08 GMT -8
I’d take it off the frame and see what one of those trailer building places would build you one for. Seems like we have one of those places on every exit here in Bama. I like your trailer and it looks like a good candidate but like nccamper suggested, I’m thinking it’s a complete rebuild. I wish I had another one to build. Great therapy for me. I’m back on the hunt. Lol
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Post by midwestmike on May 11, 2020 21:04:21 GMT -8
Hello Everyone!
Thanks again for all this advice I really appreciate it!
So today I called two welding fabrication shops near me and asked them for quote on fixing or replacing the frame. They both asked for emailed pictures to see more and see what they wanna do or how much they might charge.
Still waiting for them to call back.. Hopefully that is not a bad sign? *crosses fingers*
But since then I have emailed and sent photos to about 5 more shops in the area so hopefully we get a response in the next few days.
To answer some of your questions:
I have no emotional tie to this trailer we just found it for 900$ and impulse bought it. It didn't at first look that rough and we really liked its character.
The dream is we want a queen bed across the back and a kitchen across the front with cabinets and storage to make it structural and convenient. We do not want a bathroom. And that is why we thought that it being gutted was a plus.
Should I run for the hills now? or is this a realistic goal without going broke.
Would a vintage restoration company be a good avenue for me to seek? or are they going to be ridiculously over priced?
I'm willing to spend up to 5,ooo$ to get this in a state that would last many years and be a very stable road trip trailer.
I'll take some photos of the wheel wells and frame behind tires tomorrow but here are a few photos of the inside.
Thanks again! - Mike
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Post by vikx on May 11, 2020 21:21:49 GMT -8
I hate to say it: RUN FOR THE HILLS. With the biggest issue of a bad frame, gutted interior and obvious water damage, you'll be into this trailer for more than the 5K you generously said you'd pay. The trailer will never be worth what you have in it.
There are several reasons for stopping now. One, the trailer isn't rare or in high demand. It is newer than the sought after hams. The style and year are just not what others are looking for, making any future resale a loss. Your trailer needs a full build just from looking at it. In other words, skins off, roof floated or removed and proper structural repairs done.
Changing the floor plan can cause all sorts of issues, from towing to having the body come apart. It isn't recommended. Some minor changes might be OK, but these trailers were designed and built the way they are for good reasons. The cabinets are most important for structural integrity
JMO: Quit while you're ahead and find something more suitable to invest in. Believe me, I've quit more than once on derelicts with no real worth.
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Post by aslmx on May 12, 2020 17:49:12 GMT -8
Really depends on what you want to do. If you want a show piece then I’d hunt for another one but if you just want something safe to camp in then I’d weigh it out. I’m a glass half full guy. It looks like you have all the windows and cushions. That’s miles above what I started with. As far as materials go I was very lucky. I’m a project manager for an electrical company so all my wall framing, wiring, insulation, flooring, butyl tape was free. We built ours to use and it would take a pretty penny to get it from me. We were voted coolest trailer at the campground this past weekend and we were parked between 2 $100k motor homes. I’d think about it and weigh your options on what you want in the end.
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