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Post by Hamlet on Aug 21, 2013 18:53:11 GMT -8
modernme - First, it's really hard to find new paneling resembling the original. Real wood paneling is going to run at least $30 for a sheet. You will use about 10-12 sheets for a Compact. The birch (do NOT get it at a big box store) will run somewhere between $20 and $24 a sheet. Same 10-12 sheets. You will still need to pay for the finish, but we think it 's a good trade. I think we used about ten sheets on our old-style Compact.
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 21, 2013 19:01:09 GMT -8
By the way a quick rule of thumb reference is about one sheet (4x8) per foot of length of the box depending on cabinets and layout. Also depends on how much of the cabinets you rebuild.
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 21, 2013 19:12:31 GMT -8
Oh and there are two female college students I know who completely restored a 71 Cardinal with Birch and they did a beautiful job. It looks fantastic. Here's the blog of the build. I have always wanted to do this with a newer trailer cuz I hate the paneling that they started using to replace the birch. www.physics.sfsu.edu/~sburt/Site/My_Albums/My_Albums.html
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Post by soup on Aug 22, 2013 2:21:19 GMT -8
Soup, there's another derelict Shasta in the Evansville Craigslist, it was just listed. a mis-60s Airflyte, for$200! You look like you need something to do, I am sending a PM... Thanks again!
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Post by soup on Aug 22, 2013 2:40:41 GMT -8
Re-do it all in birch... A little late now that the roof is on but I think it would have looked nice. It would have looked fantastic. Birch is best by far as we all know. Couple things prevented that though. Money and time. Has to be done no later than Aug. 31st, and the new roof skin completely blew the budget out of the water. You could re-do a whole interior in birch for what the roof skin cost. Time wise, with the deadline, not enough to redo whole interior and with the birch, I would have a 45 min. - hour one way drive to the nearest birch panel. Time was and is always critical with me. Sense I usually have all my money (really, every penny to my name) tied up in each one I do, I usually have to turn and burn them in 30-60 days each or my dream life will come crashing down around me and my house would be repo'ed. Pretty sure it all sums up to caviar dreams with imitation crab meat budget, plus the deadline of 8/31/13. Just think though, it will be perfectly ready for paint and glam inside for the new owner! They won't be finding any surprise rot anywhere. (Dang Flippers and PO's! LOL) I'll do birch on my wife's 63 compact back wall though! LOL The main goal for me on all these repair units I save from the scrap pile is to bring them back from the dead, to being a solid, dry, non-rotted, safe, usable camper for the next owner. I also need to do this in 60 days or less and still keep costs down to where I can still pay my house payment while doing them. If you look at the past units I have repaired, they have mostly been beyond the repair talents of most new owners, and pretty much ready for scrap. This one had a 37"x24" hole in the center of the roof that caused the need of the back 1/3 of the floor to be replaced too. (From rain water running down the 6" diameter crashed through tree limb that was resting on the floor in the back, and sticking through the roof about 6 feet!) This one was a mini miracle of balance with time and money. They aren't really "finished" when I'm done with them. They are just ready for camping, and glamping when I hand them off to the next owner.
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Post by cowcharge on Aug 22, 2013 7:59:18 GMT -8
Ugh, imitation crabmeat (and 70s paneling).
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 22, 2013 8:07:13 GMT -8
Ugh, imitation crabmeat (and 70s paneling). One of the main reasons I try to stick with 50's trailers is the Birch. It's just the most appealing interior I have ever seen. The warm glow that it gives off especially at night is a very comfortable sight. It's kind of like a comforter only in the shape of a box.
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Post by cowcharge on Aug 22, 2013 8:17:50 GMT -8
The first decision I made about my '76, after I discovered how big the "just one soft spot" was and realized I was in for a much more involved project, was to tear the paneling and beaverboard cabinets all out and use tung-oiled birch and poplar to replace it all.
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Post by hoosierpoet on Aug 22, 2013 14:51:46 GMT -8
The first decision I made about my '76, after I discovered how big the "just one soft spot" was and realized I was in for a much more involved project, was to tear the paneling and beaverboard cabinets all out and use tung-oiled birch and poplar to replace it all. "Beaverboard" - so that is what that crappy 70's paneling is called! Hadn't heard that before (but I can see how it's fitting...)
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Post by cowcharge on Aug 22, 2013 15:00:18 GMT -8
No, beaverboard is that heavy crap made out of sawdust and glue that they used for the cabinets.
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 22, 2013 16:18:16 GMT -8
No, beaverboard is that heavy crap made out of sawdust and glue that they used for the cabinets. There's a real name for that stuff and I just can't remember what it is right now. Been replacing the plumbing in a TravelEZE all day in 102 degree heat. My brain is officially fried now.
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Post by bigbill on Aug 22, 2013 19:20:50 GMT -8
Actual beaver board was a flat panel sold during and right after WW II when everything was almost impossible to get, they built defense cabins out of 2x2, with Celotex exterior and Beaverboard interior walls so that people had a place to live until proper building materials became available.There were several in the area I grew up in, most were either tore down or were used as storage sheds once a proper house was built. They didn't even have a foundation just sat on concrete blocks. I think it was one of the first composite fiber boards manufactured and I think it sold for less than a dollar a sheet. Which was more than it was worth. There electrical service was one light bulb hanging from the rafters with a socket that allowed you to plug in two plugs. Can you imagine what started modern building codes and zoning.
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Post by hoosierpoet on Aug 23, 2013 4:08:18 GMT -8
We think we need so much more to live, but the poorest people in America today are rich compared to many folks not too long ago. Most youg people couldn't imagine living without all the high-tech stuff, but there was a good portion of the U.S. that didn't have electricity until the rural cooperatives went through in the '30s and '40s. I have a good friend, my age (old, but not THAT old!), who didn't have indoor plumbing till she was in her teens! we could all probably get along - and even, be happy - with a lot less. i do think that's what is behind the resurgeance of the vintage campers, people are longing for a simpler time. This is one way to get it, without throwing out the baby with the bath water.
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Post by cowcharge on Aug 23, 2013 5:50:44 GMT -8
It's called Melamine at Home Depot. The old paneling in my camper looked (and tore out) like lauan, but it had a fake grain-and-panel-stripe coating on the face.
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Post by soup on Aug 26, 2013 3:24:24 GMT -8
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