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Post by mobiltec on Dec 6, 2014 18:09:08 GMT -8
Study up on the *safe use* of a table saw. They are not toys. They are potentially a very dangerous tool.
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Post by bigbill on Dec 7, 2014 5:09:07 GMT -8
As Larry said table saws as well as any other saw are dangerous tools. I can't think of any other tool that has hurt more people than power saws of all types. Two types of people are most likely going to get hurt with a saw, the inexperienced and the experienced. The first because of lack of training, the second because they let there guard down. ALL POWER SAWS REQUIRE RESPECT OR THEY WILL HURT YOU.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Dec 7, 2014 12:32:51 GMT -8
Awe... You Southern gentlemen are so sweet and protective. We don't have that up here in Canada.
Although I must say, that all of the tool related injuries I have seen have always been guys.
I tend to always work cautiously and slowly,... I don't know if that has to do with gender or personality, but so far I have
used a lot of different saws and remained uninjured. I always think a Ban saw is the more dangerous.
They always have them in high school wood shops and let kids make puzzles with them.
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Post by kimberwarden on Dec 18, 2014 11:10:47 GMT -8
I have a table saw and a miter saw. The miter saw isn't permanently set up, so I never bother to get it out. My table saw can do almost anything a miter saw can do (except compound miters, which I can't imagine needing in a trailer) and so much more. If you wanted to build a cabinet with mitered corners, you'd need to bevel long edges, which you can't do with a miter saw. I keep my table saw on wheels so I can move it to the driveway if I need the extra clearance, which is very rarely.
Another bonus of a table saw is that you can trade out the blade for a sanding disc. Very handy for easily shaping curves.
That's just my 2 cents. And I'd choose an old steel table saw over a modern $150 model any day of the week. There are You tube videos that will show you how to adjust it.
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Post by 61 Shasta on Dec 18, 2014 12:27:05 GMT -8
Rod, I might as well chime in. Lets face it guys and gals, for cutting wood, with the right gigs, measuring tools and clamps, a circular saw will do just about any cutting necessary. It will take a little longer to set up and prepare but it can be done. Compound miter saws and table saws certainly can make things easier and more precise. I have both. However, if you are limited to purchasing only one for any reason, Here are some things to consider. During my resto I purchased most of my 1 by material in 12 inch widths and ripped it down to whatever width I needed for that particular phase. Plywood, paneling and underlayment material for the most part was layed out and cut on the table saw with some cuts using the circular saw. I could not relegate these cuts to the vendor so I had to do it on site. Without my quality table saw I would have spent many hours laying out and cutting solely with my circular saw. Most of the butt cuts and miters were made easier with the miter saw but there were very few that could not have been done with the table saw or circular saw. As far as cabinetry and drawers, again, the miter saw came in handy but most of these cuts were made with the table saw.
So, I guess if I had to make a choice, I would have to say the table saw was the most used lumber cutting tool in my project. Now, whatever you do, purchase a Kreg jig (whatever size you can afford). I consider this an essential part of any restoration or rebuild. They are available at most any hardware or big box store. Also, lots of clamps, lots and lots of clamps. The list could go on but I will stop here and let you mull over your choices and yep, most of this stuff can be found at yard sales or craigs list. Harbor Freight is another good source for some of it although not their plastic clamps, they are junk.
Chuck
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Post by bigbill on Dec 19, 2014 6:55:57 GMT -8
61 Shasta you are right on the above statement. All sawing could also be done with a handsaw like my granddad did it but as you said their are easier ways.  |
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Post by gomesie on Dec 19, 2014 8:31:12 GMT -8
Old table saw, contractor type where the motor hangs off the back. Tune in up, good fence, miter gauge and blade and you can do many different operations. Having a collection of tools gathered over a lifetime it is my most go to tool in my shop. You will need a 20 amp Circut to run it. If you do buy a table saw read up on the safe operation when performing different style cut on the saw, always make sure you have a guard in place, and use a splitter when ripping. Projects are a place you get to use all of your tools and hopefully have an excuse to get another.  |
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Post by RJ on Jan 15, 2015 14:01:55 GMT -8
Sweet deal Larry!
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Post by bigbill on Jan 15, 2015 15:17:39 GMT -8
Larry I would either clamp or bolt it down since it is so light. You don't want it moving if some thing binds.
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 15, 2015 15:21:50 GMT -8
Larry I would either clamp or bolt it down since it is so light. You don't want it moving if some thing binds. Im going to put two anchors in the table for it Bill. That way I can just thumb screw it down when I need to. |
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Post by mick on Mar 17, 2015 15:50:38 GMT -8
I've been doing woodwork of one sort or another for 35 yrs and have collected most tools a small woodworking shop needs. Each tool has its use and the proper tool is the safest. That being said if you don't have the right tool making do with another is ok as long as you're using it safely. I've done many things when I'd be away from my shop and didn't have access to the right tool. The main, and most important thing is doing it safely.
Ryobi make a very well made construction table saw. It's has a wheeled riser type table which when folded down is like a handtruck. Makes it very easy to move around.
Dewalt makes a 10" compound sliding miter saw I couldn't do without. Other brands are good too but my philosophy is buy the best tool you can afford and you won't be buying it again.
Recipicating saw comes in handy for teardowns, get a metal blade for all those pesky screws and nails.
Cordless anything is great if you're somewhere without power but my drill or screw gun is essential!. Didn't mean to get off topic but got carried away as I'm a tool addict!
Mike
. Oh did I mention safety!
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Post by mobiltec on May 19, 2015 13:06:05 GMT -8
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Post by turbodaddy on May 19, 2015 15:00:40 GMT -8
For Larry, or anyone else familiar with Harbor Freight.
I have only just recently visited HF near me, I think it might even have Tractor Supply beat as my new favorite store. But I have to ask (because the prices seem so low) are their tools any good? I need an electric chainsaw,HF has a 9amp on sale for only $45! They have some kind of extended warranty on tools for two years. So what I guess you can do is try to beat the **** out of stuff and then return it before the warranty runs out. I used to have 7 acres of woods to take care of, now just over 1/2 acre, most of which I can reach with a power cord and I expect I'll only need to use it for a few days each year.Really like some feedback from those of you who've purchased stuff from them.
Thanks.
I usually have bought Milwaukee,Makita,Delta and Ryobi all of which have lasted for many years.My guess is everything is Chinese, still don't understand how they can sell so CHEAP!
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Post by mobiltec on May 19, 2015 15:29:47 GMT -8
First let me say that I have not had any problems with any of the power tools that I have bought from HF. But you MUST read and follow the instructions. They way HF tools break is by people using them without following instructions. They are built very cheap and if you use them for commercial type work every day they will probably not last long. If you are using them in that manner I would get the extended warranty.
Example. The Multi-Tool was my first purchase at HF. My friend Bob had gone through 3 of them in less than a year. So I thought they might be a poor tool. But the equivalent tool at other places was much more expensive. So I figured it if lasted for one trailer it would be fine. I read the instructions and as I already knew by using other tools with blades in the past, it said to use TWO wrenches to change the blades. I also bought a second one in case the first one burned up on me. That was about 3 years ago and I still haven't opened the new one up. I watched Bob change a blade in his and he only used one wrench which puts a lot of stress on the little gears inside the tool and that's why they don't last for him.
All the power tools that I have purchased there are still working just fine. I have no problems with them. But they are made to use on a hobby basis. I don't think they would last in commercial use. I also take very good care of them. I don't beat them up or leave them outside.
There are things sold at HF that are complete junk. Some of the cheap flash lights don't work at all when you get them home. But I love the tarps. They are cheap and last longer than the ones at Home Depot or Ace. For covering my trailers though I buy on line at Tarps On Line. You can't beat those tarps. For all other uses I go with HF.
My next purchase will be the 30 inch sheet metal brake for $59. It won't go past 90 degrees so you can't make some items. But it will be fine for small things like metal trim for the windows and roof vent.
Sign up with them to get the coupons. They often have sales and coupons take the price down even further. The 20% or 25% off on any one item coupons are my favorites. Read the fine print.
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