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Post by nccamper on Apr 12, 2014 19:28:42 GMT -8
I was wondering if anybody has seen a layout alteration like this?  My wife and I were wondering if this makes more sense for us. A dinette that stays up and a usable couch that becomes a 48 inch bed when extended. The only problem is our new purchase is pure original and I hate to alter it. So what do you think? Offensive to the purist out there?
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Post by Hamlet on Apr 12, 2014 19:44:43 GMT -8
What year is it? If you put a seat all the way to the back of the canned ham style, you won't be able to sit up straight. For the toaster-style, why not? The bed will open up and you'll sleep along the side, right? If so, you won't have the extra space you show to the end of the bed. It'll need to come all the way to the door. The other side will be great, and you can do all sorts of things with the front and closet area.
But to answer your question. Yes, it will be "offensive" to the purist out there, but it's YOUR trailer. You can still make it look as vintage as you want. If you still have the original stove and icebox/fridge, use birch, vintage-type flooring, etc, and it may wind up looking like it was made that way from the beginning.
Good luck whatever you decide to do, and remember, we like pictures!
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Post by nccamper on Apr 12, 2014 20:11:05 GMT -8
What year is it? If you put a seat all the way to the back of the canned ham style, you won't be able to sit up straight. For the toaster-style, why not? It is more of the old style canned ham. Which may be tight. I wonder is if the dinette to the side would open it up a little?  Would you say this is birch? Looks like oak or Ash.
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Post by bigbill on Apr 13, 2014 4:10:53 GMT -8
Would that only be a two person dinette? What is the inside width of trailer 6'3" , if so you dinette would only be about 36 inches if it comes all the way to the bed and then you will have to crawl in and out from the foot. You could also make it so if the dinette was dropped down you would have a king size bed. No matter how you do it you will only wind up with a very small floor area right in front of bed, approx. 2 feet wide.
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Post by 65callie on Apr 13, 2014 4:42:02 GMT -8
This is exactly what my son and his wife did in their 62 compact. I will post some pics. They are just finishing it up and don't have the cushions in yet. They are going to have the bench pull out and use a queen blow up mattress on it for sleeping. The dinette is small but fits them. I think it would be tight for me and my husband since we have "middle age spread". They also sized down the kitchen area, it didn't have a stove anyway. This gives a little more room for when they take a dog or 2 with them.
Yes, the purists will not be happy with their changes, one of the reasons I haven't posted the pics. Also because we are "birch painters" which seems to really set people off. My feeling is that whatever makes a person happy is fine, after all it's just a trailer. I think changing the layout, and painting birch, will negatively affect the resale value, but again, it's a personal choice.
We are racing to get both trailers ready for the Hiawassee rally, so I'll post pics as soon as I can.
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Post by nccamper on Apr 13, 2014 4:57:28 GMT -8
Yes, it would be a small dinette and a full size pull out bed.
Seeing any photos of how this layout turned out would be great.
And I agree, it would be changing something that survived 52 years. So we would think it through carefully before doing it.
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Post by 65callie on Apr 13, 2014 5:06:07 GMT -8
nccamper: I will try to get a few pics up today so you can get an idea. Came up with a good way to mount the table without a table leg in the way.
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Post by Ten on Apr 13, 2014 6:20:44 GMT -8
For whatever my thoughts are worth...here they be: First I have two major complaints with painted interiors. First is when the paint is used to cover up damaged panels and corners which should be repaired and/or replaced. Second is painting over ORIGINAL BIRCH!  Anyway, the bottom line is and always will be, if it is yours, do what you want with it...make it comfortable and workable and appealing to your needs and desires. I absolutely fell for my Airflyte because it was so well preserved, mostly all original and in pretty good shape for near 50 years old and 35 of them in the woods. My goal is to return it as close as possible to the original, though I know some things will be replaced and will be different... I would feel very much the same way about your Compact, knowing the back story and seeing its condition. (Someday I would love to find a '64 to go with the Airflyte, in that good condition.) I also have this Bravo...a rare make, but was already gutted out, and is perfect for reconstruction with some modern twists:   The way I view it is that there are so many that need total rebuilds and are much more "receptive" to reconfiguring the layouts etc, that I would have a tough time even thinking about changing up the layout of the Compact. Your proposed layout is the same as the later model 1400 and 16SC. I try not to knock anyone else's vision of their own camper, but that is the way I see things....
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 13, 2014 6:35:15 GMT -8
<sigh> I guess you gotta' do what works for you. I do find it sad to alter a vintage trailer that is in such good condition. If I came across one that was trashed on the inside or had to be put back together, I wouldn't feel so bad about a remodel job, including paint in fun colors. Poor, poor baby. Gonna' cut up her insides.
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 13, 2014 6:39:15 GMT -8
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 13, 2014 6:45:47 GMT -8
I lean toward keeping things period original and restoring with minor enhancements. My wife leans toward doing whatever she wants to HER trailer, lol. You two have his and her trailers?
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Post by bmxovich on Apr 13, 2014 7:00:37 GMT -8
I lean toward keeping things period original and restoring with minor enhancements. My wife leans toward doing whatever she wants to HER trailer, lol. You two have his and her trailers? Well, we do have two 61 Compacts, but the latest one will probly be sold. I'd like to keep it and do my style restoration, but only so much time and $ available. We plan to totally reskin hers and I have my eye out for an earlier model. Mid to late 50's Shasta, or possibly unique 40's trailer. And I'll call all the shots on that one 
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Post by Hamlet on Apr 13, 2014 9:13:16 GMT -8
Someone out there did a remodel of an early Compact with a full-time bed that might make more sense for you, if you are bent on making the change. They took out the kitchen, put a mini-dinette across the front, more like an Airflyte setup. Shrunk the kitchen and put it and the storage along both sides. They did a full (double) bed across the back. 48" is pretty tight for two adults. A full size is another 6" wide, and that 6" makes a big difference. We can understand the desire for a full-time bed, and also for a full-time place to sit and eat. One of the few real downsides of the Compact is that it's difficult to have both in 10 feet of space. We have our bed set up and break down to about 3 minutes (depends on whether I get in his way or not), but that's not for everyone. Sometimes when we know we're going to have a long travel day and won't be in camp in time to cook dinner, we will just leave the bed up for the day, and do a picnic outside the trailer.
If you're looking at selling it down the line, the reconfiguration could either be a bane or a boon. There are a fair number of folks out there who neither know, nor care, what the trailer originally looked like. They just want something "cute." But there are others (and we confess, we are among the group) that would like to see the earlier, ham-style, ones kept as original as possible, allowing for (gasp) flat screen TVs (not us) or closet-to-wet bath conversions (us) and the reconfiguration of storage space.
Good luck, whatever you decide. And to all of you who dare to be different, post YOUR pictures as well. They might help the traditionalists among us loosen up a bit!
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Post by 65callie on Apr 13, 2014 9:32:26 GMT -8
nccamper: If you decide to go with the dinette layout, you can PM me and I will email pics to you. I'm afraid if I post them here, Ten, Hamlet, and others will be traumatized beyond recovery Also: I saw the compact that had a dinette across the front, kitchen on the side, closet on other side, permanent bed in back, and AC installed under bed. It was a 1972 compact, totally repaired and remodeled by forum member "Bo and Susan" for forum member "Becinala". Bo and Susan do beautiful work, and they don't paint birch 
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Post by Hamlet on Apr 13, 2014 9:57:09 GMT -8
nccamper: If you decide to go with the dinette layout, you can PM me and I will email pics to you. I'm afraid if I post them here, Ten, Hamlet, and others will be traumatized beyond recovery Hamlet's people have been "beyond recovery" for a LONG time, just not from revisions to vintage trailers!  Purists wouldn't like what we did with Hamlet when we shortened the benches, turned the bed sideways, and added a closet on one side and a "nightstand" on the other so we could turn that luscious, large closet into a potty/shower room. We made Hamlet work for us, and he does, wonderfully. We also made sure that he looks original to any but the trained eye. That was what was important to us.
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