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Post by tghurst on Jun 5, 2024 5:11:41 GMT -8
Hello- we are new to this camper renovation but loving it! We bought a ‘68 Scotsman last fall and began work on it this spring. While it was original, it had a lot of rot and water damage. Took it clear down to the frame, and now rebuilding it. A lot of work and decisions but so fun to see it coming back. I need some advice on paint colors/design for the exterior. We are reusing the original skins. How do you decide if it should be painted with a Z design, or a stripe or solid? Totally personal preference? We want to keep it original looking. Any thoughts?
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Post by Teachndad on Jun 5, 2024 5:21:38 GMT -8
Hello and Welcome! You have quite the project ahead. Sounds like it's in good hands. Paint schemes are as you mentioned complete personal preference. Look online for photos of Scotsman trailers. They made them for a number of years and see what looks good to you. The stripe police won't be knocking on your door telling you painted it wrong. I like the band going across the waist line personally. Width differs. Someone here just finished a Scotsman ground up rebuild. Do search and you might find some tips for the restoration. Other Scotsman's have come across these waters as well. The board is a gold mine for such things. The Z stripe is more a Shasta thing than on other trailers. Do a Googlen search on vintage trailers in general and see what paint scheme catches your eye. You have a long way to go, and as you venture forth through your project, your knowledge and opinions may change. So, keep it going. What you may like now, may change by the time you get to the finish line. Check out some vintage trailer rallies, too just to see what people have done with thier interiors and exteriors. Please share some pictures ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/3684717/images/bj8tcXxjY63hJ9bk7Ooo.png) and start a restoration thread. Here is a link on how to post photos: vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/7276/add-photos-hosted-flickr-tutoria Some people just post links, but pix are more convenient in a thread. It's a bit of work to set up the Flickr albums, but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy. Cheers, Rod
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Post by nccamper on Jun 5, 2024 18:19:35 GMT -8
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Post by tghurst on Jun 6, 2024 7:56:34 GMT -8
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Post by tghurst on Jun 6, 2024 16:10:19 GMT -8
When we took the camper apart, there was a vinyl/plastic cording around the cabinets and goucho. Is this something we should put in again? Curious what the purpose is and where it can be purchased?
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Post by Teachndad on Jun 7, 2024 5:13:39 GMT -8
Nice save TG! Your trailer found the right person to do the restoration. Your trailer is so lucky! That picture of the rusted out stove is amazing. What caused that rusted out stove tub? UGGH! Was that a product of rodent infestation - Lotsa pee? I have to ask how in the world did you find plywood that didn't curl up? Your plywood looks devinely flat! What's the secret? LOL. Nice wood working skills! As to your question about the cording, that's called gimp. And yes, you should install it in the same places it was found. It helps to reduce or eliminate the squeek of wood on wood friction when you walk around in your trailer. This thread will provide a little more info. vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/12995/gimp?page=1&scrollTo=121848 You can also search under "gimp" on this site. You can make it yourself if you have time or just buy it. Vintage trailer supply or upholstery shops sell it, also. On cushions, it can be referred to as piping. Comes in different colors Keep it going! Rod
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Post by tghurst on Jun 10, 2024 14:19:22 GMT -8
Yes the rusted out stove does seem to be a result of “lotsa pee”. The dear little camper really really stunk. Glad to have it all out. We were hoping to rebuild the original stove, but aren’t sure it’s feasible. Any idea where I could find one to purchase? On the wood being straight - the sheets were hand picked from Menards. My husband is a finish carpenter, plus has years of framing experience. I am lucky. We ordered gimp- the 3/16” size from Trailer Gasket. It matched the size of the original the closest, but we plan to paint it to match the wall color better. Do you think that will work?
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Post by tghurst on Jun 10, 2024 16:07:41 GMT -8
Need some advice or even personal opinion is fine. The original interior of our ‘68 Scotsman Scottie is a tan/slightly yellow paneling with the grain showing through. We want to keep it pretty much original looking, but we have thought of leaving the ceiling birch and whitewashing the walls. Any advice on doing that?
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Post by Teachndad on Jun 11, 2024 9:43:59 GMT -8
In answer to your question regarding a replacement stove, you can canvas Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace. They come up from time to time, but may not turn up in a color that matches your interior. It requires time as well. Check FB for groups that focus on vintage trailer parts. You might get lucky with someone who has one within driving distance. The other choice is to look for just a cooktop or even a modern one. No one uses the ovens except maybe for storage. Just an idea.
As far as painting the gimp, I have no experience, but you could paint a sample and see how it holds up. Someone with more experience could give you a better answer.
Cheers,
Rod
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Post by Teachndad on Jun 11, 2024 10:03:04 GMT -8
As to the differing treatment of woodgrain on ceiling vs. walls, it's really what you want to do.
I have seen a vintage airstream interior dripping in high tech and led lighting. It definitely wasn't for me, but for the owner, he loved it. It didn't matter what I thought about it. As it should be. You are making a trailer as your own.
Make that she shed or cool cave the way you want it. Several folks here over the years have mixed wood grains between the ceiling walls and cabinets and it worked great. The Authentic Police will never see it anyway.
Cheers,
Rod
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Post by tghurst on Jul 3, 2024 10:03:06 GMT -8
For anyone wanting to paint gimp, we tried it and it doesn’t work. The paint went on nicely - we used spray paint- Rustoleum 2X Ultra Cover, but it stayed tacky and never dried. Wiped it off with mineral spirits, sanded it and tried again. Same deal. Wiped it with rubbing alcohol, tried again, and same thing. Looked nice, but has a tacky finish. If someone has successfully painted gimp, I’d love to hear how you did it. A question- can birch plywood be whitewashed without the pink from the wood showing through? I so badly wanted to whitewash the interior to keep it original looking, but the pink shows through and I don’t want pink walls. Thinking I may need to just paint it and not have any grain showing.
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Post by Darrylthe67Scotty on Sept 3, 2024 20:57:13 GMT -8
For anyone wanting to paint gimp, we tried it and it doesn’t work. The paint went on nicely - we used spray paint- Rustoleum 2X Ultra Cover, but it stayed tacky and never dried. Wiped it off with mineral spirits, sanded it and tried again. Same deal. Wiped it with rubbing alcohol, tried again, and same thing. Looked nice, but has a tacky finish. If someone has successfully painted gimp, I’d love to hear how you did it. Thanks for reporting back! It's actually super helpful to hear what doesn't work for people too! It's interesting that the paint didn't work on your gimp - I suppose you could possibly try a different type of paint. I will say that in vintage campers, the gimp doesn't always match the wood or interior perfectly, so if you're going for a perfect match for authenticity's sake, you may be putting yourself to a lot more effort than you need to! However, if close matching is a priority for you, you may be best served by making your own gimp (also called welt, by the way). It's not hard, just takes a bit of time. You can find a decent how-to video from Sailrite here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=70PJP1lD_Xw
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 4, 2024 4:52:41 GMT -8
For anyone wanting to paint gimp, we tried it and it doesn’t work. The paint went on nicely - we used spray paint- Rustoleum 2X Ultra Cover, but it stayed tacky and never dried. Wiped it off with mineral spirits, sanded it and tried again. Same deal. Wiped it with rubbing alcohol, tried again, and same thing. Looked nice, but has a tacky finish. If someone has successfully painted gimp, I’d love to hear how you did it. A question- can birch plywood be whitewashed without the pink from the wood showing through? I so badly wanted to whitewash the interior to keep it original looking, but the pink shows through and I don’t want pink walls. Thinking I may need to just paint it and not have any grain showing. It's been 2 months since your last post. What did you decide to do about the interior side of the walls and ceiling? Rod
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