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Post by mobiltec on Nov 12, 2018 14:06:52 GMT -8
Welcome to my world. I am in a constant battle with all the goopers and painters out there. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 11, 2018 11:46:17 GMT -8
We're now seeing night time lows like 11 here in Northern NV.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 9, 2018 17:55:21 GMT -8
So Larry, if I needed to shoot a row or two of screws along the sides, would you suggest some sort of sealant in the screw holes before final tightening? Would I have to worry about moisture wicking in along the screw to the wood sides? I've been told that it's not a good idea because the stuff in the goop is not good for the wood and will make it soften up. You don't want the wood softening up around the screws.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 9, 2018 6:41:34 GMT -8
Not sure on this one. I believe this is being flipped by the magazine guy in Calif. Not sure, but I would want to do a LOT more inspecting for that money. I can see the Vintage Camper Trailer Magazine decal in the rear window LOL... But no matter who is flipping it I think it's a wonderful piece. Wish I had the money.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 8, 2018 17:26:01 GMT -8
Great find jukebox. Can't wait to see under the skins. You're doing the right thing by the way.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 8, 2018 16:43:43 GMT -8
It's a masonite trailer, so it'd either be pristine or in a mouldering heap. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground with those. At least the roof is aluminum and it wouldn't take much to recover this trailer with brand new metal skin. And the masonite is most likely the reason for keeping it indoors... You know I've found masonite trailers out in the deserts of California that were not in bad shape at all except for being shot up. The old masonite really held up well.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 8, 2018 9:31:07 GMT -8
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 7, 2018 15:21:53 GMT -8
I live in Florida, and I honestly have no idea how hot metal surfaces get in direct sun in the summer, but it's hot. Ambient temps hit triple digits every summer. I'm still building my trailer, and currently haven't put the siding on yet (or purchased it yet). I was hoping to before year's end. So should I wait until next August to put the siding on? Or what can be done to mitigate this? Or is buckling perfectly fine and just cosmetic and temporary? I'm more concerned about weather proof-ness than looks (but I don't want it to look bad, if possible). It rains a whole lot here, pretty much year-round. I would wait until you can have at least an 80 degree day for new metal. I really like the thicker .030 metal. I hung that one during a hot summer and it didn't buckle at all in the heat or in the cold.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 6, 2018 16:32:13 GMT -8
Great tutorial Larry! I haven't replaced any of the window seals on our camper yet, I plan on doing it next spring. For the last few years I have done a "hack" using the screens when the temps go down. We have a shrink wrapping machine in our picture framing shop (clear wrap). I just take all of the screens out and shrinkwrap them, then replace in the windows. It works really well to stop drafts and keeps dust out. It even adds a pocket of air as insulation since the plastic is an envelope with the screen inside. It only takes about 30 minutes to do all of them. Find your local frame shop and see if they'll do it. I leave the small upper windows without shrinkwrap so we can get some ventilation. I've done that except by hand. I did it with my Lil Loafer when I was camped out in Death Valley during the winter. I bet a lot of people don't know that it actually snows in Death Valley...
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 6, 2018 14:59:34 GMT -8
If it's stretched tight on a hot/warm day is there risk of fasteners pulling or distorting the alum if it gets really cold, like here in Ohio? How much movement is there in a wide-swing-temperature environment? I can tell you what I have seen and my experience. I installed the metal on the 66 Super Shasta on very warm days. Over 100 degrees. And then I moved the trailer to northern Nevada and worked on it and watched it over the winter when the temps got down to 8 degrees. Keep in mind I used .030 inch metal from Hemet Valley RV and Siding. I saw no buckling, none of the screws seemed like they were pulling and nothing looked out of place. And the main thing, no leaks. The brakes are supposed to take care of most of the expansion. Same with shrinkage. Now on the 59 Airflyte, which was covered with .025 inch, I put the metal on in winter when the temps were around 50 to 60 degrees. When that trailer was sitting out in the hot sun I saw lots of buckling. So I added exterior screws on both sides and that helped greatly. Now I notice very little buckling when it get's hot.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 5, 2018 8:51:56 GMT -8
I haven't seen an ad for an unmolested "canned ham" since I bought the 54 Jewel. Canned hams are just not available on CL unless they have been "restored"... And most of the restores are just putty and paint. (or wallpaper)...
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 4, 2018 17:07:24 GMT -8
Let me add another wrinkle to the question, depending on the original manufacturer the aluminum could have been installed at different facility's, in the case of the Shasta's I would think the weather conditions at the California plant would vary greatly with the humid & frigid weather at the Columbia,South Carolina plant. I am not a metallurgist so my limited knowledge relating to the expansion and contraction relating to aluminum, in this case on the top of the camper, has a memory and will return to it's previous shape. Danny Yep. The factories have the buildings set at 80 degrees or higher for metal installation.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 4, 2018 8:43:29 GMT -8
Well I suppose there is one way to find out for sure LOL... Thanks for the answers all.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 3, 2018 15:07:19 GMT -8
So here's a good one. You would think I would know the answer to this question but really I don't. Something I've never thought about. So here goes. Lend my your thoughts.
When re-installing the original roof does the ambient temperature matter? As we all know aluminum expands and contracts with heat and cold and when installing new metal you want to do it on the hottest day possible so that all the expansion is done. Then when it cools off it all shrinks and either way there is little to know buckling. But what about an old roof? What do you think will happen if it is installed on a cool day?
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 3, 2018 15:03:39 GMT -8
I watched your video on windows. Great info. I have a question do you know where I could get the opening mechanism for a 1627 Hehr window I'm missing 3 of them. Thanks Gary
Did you try Vintage Trailer Supply? If they don't have it email Chris. trailertrasher1@gmail.com
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