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Post by vikx on Nov 9, 2016 21:39:32 GMT -8
Missed the part on rubber EPDM roofs. They are heavy and only guaranteed 12 years IF you do the maintenance. Junk, in my opinion. EPDM does not belong on a vintage trailer. I met a guy at the rally who was so proud of his recently purchased Yellowstone and it was a very cool trailer. Unfortunately, the rubber roof was failing and he didn't even realize it what it was. Sigh.
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 10, 2016 2:58:43 GMT -8
Missed the part on rubber EPDM roofs. They are heavy and only guaranteed 12 years IF you do the maintenance. Junk, in my opinion. EPDM does not belong on a vintage trailer. I met a guy at the rally who was so proud of his recently purchased Yellowstone and it was a very cool trailer. Unfortunately, the rubber roof was failing and he didn't even realize it what it was. Sigh. Agreed. LOL I did go back out to Brush Truck repair and talked to Shorty again about the aluminum off of one of His wrecked semi trailers. Told Him the EDPM would last maybe 12 years. He was a little more agreeable on selling Me a sheet from the top of one of His trailers. I looked at one that had been peeled back in a wreck, that is a heavier aluminum than what was on the camper originally but I think it will be better than original. It is not painted, just shiny aluminum so the little camper will really glow. LOL
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 11, 2016 4:51:49 GMT -8
I had not heard back from the lumber store that ordered the Douglas Fir 2X2s. I stopped there yesterday to see what was going on with My order. First off, the gal that took My order seemed very confused, while She was taking My order and then after I got back there. She could not remember taking the order and could not find it in the computer. I asked Her if We had to re-order so We started all over. She wrote My name as Douglas Draper. I told Her NO, My name is Martin Draper and that I wanted Douglas Fir, She tears off that piece of paper and starts over, Douglas Draper, I explained it three more times. The manager just happened to walk into the counter area and took over, Thank You. He made several calls and could not get Douglas Fir in 2X2s, so, I am going to go back in with pine. I will though, wrap the entire floor with Tyvek, under the bottom sheeting, around the sides and over the top of the side rails. That's all for now, I am going on a journey over to Tongue River Reservoir for the weekend and will begin again on Monday with re-building the floor. Have a very nice and safe weekend everyone.
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Post by msgoehring on Nov 11, 2016 7:04:51 GMT -8
So sorry about the trouble you're having Marty, I know how you feel. I just found out yesterday afternoon that the carpenter who had agreed to remake the moulding from our trailer, hadn't even looked at it since we left it with him in July. He was supposed to have finished them by September or October, so I contacted him Tuesday when I hadn't heard from him. Now he's telling me to go to this company near Boise that makes moulding and they'll make one "almost like what we have" for $1.50/foot from our own lumber. Of course after looking through their catalog they don't have one that matches, or is even that close to what we have and we're kinda stuck since half of what was in there is beyond salvage.
I hope your trip is fun and you come back all refreshed.
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Post by nccamper on Nov 11, 2016 11:51:31 GMT -8
Getting the materials needed can be a huge pain. At times it seems I spend a day waiting for every day at work. Hang in there.
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 14, 2016 9:52:31 GMT -8
Thank You for the words of encouragement. It really helps. No fish in the TR reservoir, it was like fishing in the dead sea. LOL A real nice journey any way. I had a good time, so did My son, His G.F; Her son and Mine Grand daughter. The guy that owns the cabin came over on Saturday morning with His son and it got to hoppin then. LOL I do not drink at all, it was fun listening to them. Working on the floor. I have it ready to drag out from under the body. Going to wait for My son to get off of work and get Him to come over and give Me a hand. I am looking at the plate at the bottom of the wall studs. They had been screwed onto through the wall plate. The screw heads are all rusted off, no way to get them to come out. HMMmmmmm, at appears that I might just have to pull those walls apart and take it from there. As was suggested. I will hang some bicycle hooks from the ceiling and ratchet strap the walls to those. I will get the floor drug out first then, put the tires/wheels back onto the trailer and get that out of the way before I continue with the floor. No sense having that set out in the weather while the walls are being built. I`ll pull what nails there are going into the studs then after getting the paneling removed, saw off those rusted screws off and hope I do not hit them with the new screws. LOL Either that or just do a complete rebuild, probably be better doing that and not even messing with this old stuff.
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 14, 2016 14:29:07 GMT -8
Has anyone ever seen trailer brakes hooked to the brake lamp wiring ? That is the way some PO has this thing wired. Good thing the wires was all corroded and busted or It`d probably have been blowing fuses too. LOL
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 16, 2016 17:47:04 GMT -8
Finally got the floors structure built. Now cutting 3/8ths plywood to screw to the underneath of the floors joists. I could not have got it done without Mine little helper, Mrs Mousy. [/url] IMG_2851 by Martin Draper, on Flickr" alt=" "]
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Post by vikx on Nov 16, 2016 21:43:45 GMT -8
Mrs. Mousy looks like a good supervisor!
Martin, I think pine will be fine to frame with. Doug fir is heavy and not necessary. The trick is to get the trailer leak proof. Your edge trim is the main leak seal. Good wood behind and new putty will prevent leaks. We are here to help.
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 16, 2016 22:16:40 GMT -8
Mrs. Mousy looks like a good supervisor! Martin, I think pine will be fine to frame with. Doug fir is heavy and not necessary. The trick is to get the trailer leak proof. Your edge trim is the main leak seal. Good wood behind and new putty will prevent leaks. We are here to help. Mrs. Mousy thinks Her best job is keeping the padded stool in front of the computer, in the garage, warm and comfy for Me. LOL The pic doesn`t show Her color very well but She is mouse grey. Yes on the leak proofing. With not installing that 1/8th inch plywood between the roofing/walls and the frame works, The siding will be just a little too long but I figure that can be curled up and under the roofing for just a little bit more leak protection. I think that something that is altogether neglected on these old campers is the roof. As many holes as there are in the old aluminum roofing, I think that they should be inspected frequently and probably replaced within twenty years. Now that will put Me to about 85 so there should not be a problem getting that job done. LOL It sounds like Shorty will sell Me a section of a semi trailer roof, it appears to be a lot heavier material than the old aluminum and I think it should last quite a lot longer. I`m thinking of going with one piece to just below the windows then adding in the necessary pieces to finish it off front and back.
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Post by vikx on Nov 16, 2016 23:00:33 GMT -8
Anytime you can get a new/good condition roof, it's worth doing if there is ANY question that the existing roof might have pinholes. Not worth the chance of another ugly leak.
We have Mow Mow who also like to keep things warm, while lording it over Handsome Harry Cat. He knows not to look her in the eye...
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 17, 2016 7:09:11 GMT -8
Anytime you can get a new/good condition roof, it's worth doing if there is ANY question that the existing roof might have pinholes. Not worth the chance of another ugly leak. We have Mow Mow who also like to keep things warm, while lording it over Handsome Harry Cat. He knows not to look her in the eye... I never dreamt that the roof would, or could have that many holes in it, I thought the leaks was all coming from around the ceiling vent. It never seemed to leak any place else. I also thought that the aluminum would be good for a lifetime, boy, was I ever wrong on that. LOL
Mrs. Mousy is a lot smaller than the other two cats, Tubby and Cooper, but, they too do not look Her in the eye. LOL
When I was reading Your book, I seen a pic. of Mow Mow, She is a very pretty cat. Has beautiful markings. She reminds Me of My Sons cat, Rosie.
I have one piece of plywood cut for the underneath, another one marked, going for it today. Hoping I can get the floor finished, buttoned up and bolted down today, I hope. LOL
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Post by vikx on Nov 17, 2016 12:39:26 GMT -8
Have fun with the build!
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 17, 2016 18:17:15 GMT -8
Oh yes I am. My Mom used to say, "You stay out of trouble now", to which i would always reply with, "Oh yes I wont". LOL I have got the underbelly marked and partially screwed down. The floor deck is cut, marked and ready. In the morning I will pull out from under the body the floor structure, finish screwing the plywood belly to it, do some plumbing on the propane tubes, work on the trailer light wiring and get it all into place then, drag back in the floor onto the trailer frame, lay in the insulation then it will be time for the top deck. One piece at a time. Thats all We have. LOL I have a pic. of the structure but until i figure out what I am doing wrong with trying to post a pic. I will wait. IMG_2852 by Martin Draper, on Flickr
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Post by mrmarty51 on Nov 17, 2016 18:18:16 GMT -8
Hey, I got it figured out. I just did a copy and paste without using the image icon at the top of the posting page. LOL
Okay, I did use some P.T. wood. I needed a piece of 2X8 and was not going to unload all of the siding from on top of it so I improvised with a PT 2X6 and a 2X3 to make the 2X8. That is where the tables post receiver bolts down to. LOL I do n ot think that that little piece of PT should harm a feller too much. LOL
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