SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Jan 12, 2014 20:11:10 GMT -8
And I didn't mean to mislead you that you the denatured alcohol will take the color off completely. After fifty + years, it will not look like new wood. But it will give you a surface that you can shellac over and give it a fresh new look.
|
|
jannica
Active Member
Posts: 185
Likes: 26
Currently Offline
|
Post by jannica on Jan 13, 2014 10:14:52 GMT -8
And I didn't mean to mislead you that you the denatured alcohol will take the color off completely. After fifty + years, it will not look like new wood. But it will give you a surface that you can shellac over and give it a fresh new look. Thanks SusieQ, I didn't find your comment misleading. I have quickly learned that nothing is ever that easy with an old camper! Haha I am planning to replace almost all of the wood and only keep the wood that is hard to replace (I.e. Closet). If those pieces don't match exactly, oh well. I think I will love it either way once I am finally done.
|
|
mobiltec
5K Member
I make mistakes so you don't have to...
Posts: 9,822
Likes: 3,749
1954 Jewel In Progress...
Currently Offline
|
Post by mobiltec on Jan 14, 2014 9:01:08 GMT -8
THere's an easy way to tell if it's shellac... Just drip some rubbing alcohol on it. Alcohol will dissolve shellac... it's easy to fix, but do it in an inconspicuous place. If it doesn't start to dissolve with the ETOH, it may be an early polyurethane. What he said....
|
|
Hamlet
2K Member
Posts: 2,820
Likes: 925
Currently Offline
|
Post by Hamlet on Jan 17, 2014 17:50:56 GMT -8
We found out the hard way about shellac. Several years ago Mr Hamlet was playing violin in a winter concert. Stringed instruments are finished with a couple dozen coats of ETOH-soluble finish. The producers had the "great idea" to have fake snow fall down from up above the orchestra. It was composed primarily of alcohol. The string section pretty much came unglued as they watched the finishes on their $25,000 instruments dissolve before their eyes. Not a pretty picture!
|
|
mobiltec
5K Member
I make mistakes so you don't have to...
Posts: 9,822
Likes: 3,749
1954 Jewel In Progress...
Currently Offline
|
Post by mobiltec on Jan 17, 2014 19:33:09 GMT -8
We found out the hard way about shellac. Several years ago Mr Hamlet was playing violin in a winter concert. Stringed instruments are finished with a couple dozen coats of ETOH-soluble finish. The producers had the "great idea" to have fake snow fall down from up above the orchestra. It was composed primarily of alcohol. The string section pretty much came unglued as they watched the finishes on their $25,000 instruments dissolve before their eyes. Not a pretty picture! OH NO! DANG!..... Hey here's another warning. Silly string is highly flamable. Do not allow anyone to spray you with it. Now back to Shellac. You can actually bring back an old scratched up wall with denatured alcohol and make it look new. Do a little experimenting if you find that the finish is indeed shellac.
|
|
jannica
Active Member
Posts: 185
Likes: 26
Currently Offline
|
Post by jannica on Jan 17, 2014 20:16:34 GMT -8
I tried denatured alcohol on my cabinets and walls today and nothing happened. . Guess that means it's polyurethane or something similar. Darn
|
|
mobiltec
5K Member
I make mistakes so you don't have to...
Posts: 9,822
Likes: 3,749
1954 Jewel In Progress...
Currently Offline
|
Post by mobiltec on Jan 17, 2014 20:26:17 GMT -8
Dont give up the ship. Sand an area down to bare wood but be careful not to go all the way through the veneer and do it in a place that is out of sight. Then go ahead and apply amber shellac to it and see what happens... If it works out you can just sand down the entire interior and start with bare wood. You can also just lightly sand what you have and put something else over it. But run a test in an inconspicuous place first.
|
|
jannica
Active Member
Posts: 185
Likes: 26
Currently Offline
|
Post by jannica on Jan 18, 2014 8:29:19 GMT -8
Dont give up the ship. Sand an area down to bare wood but be careful not to go all the way through the veneer and do it in a place that is out of sight. Then go ahead and apply amber shellac to it and see what happens... If it works out you can just sand down the entire interior and start with bare wood. You can also just lightly sand what you have and put something else over it. But run a test in an inconspicuous place first. Thanks, that's what I'm planning to do. I am planning to replace most of the paneling anyway, but I really didn't want to try to replace the closet and cabinets if I didn't have to since those are harder to replace for someone like me who is not a master carpenter. haha I messed up the wood on my closet yesterday trying to get the shelf loose because it had a twisty nail in it. I'm hoping it won't be that noticeable once I put the shelf back up.
|
|
Hamlet
2K Member
Posts: 2,820
Likes: 925
Currently Offline
|
Post by Hamlet on Jan 18, 2014 9:07:40 GMT -8
Hey here's another warning. Silly string is highly flammable. Do not allow anyone to spray you with it. And you would know this because? ?
|
|
mobiltec
5K Member
I make mistakes so you don't have to...
Posts: 9,822
Likes: 3,749
1954 Jewel In Progress...
Currently Offline
|
Post by mobiltec on Jan 18, 2014 11:21:54 GMT -8
Hey here's another warning. Silly string is highly flammable. Do not allow anyone to spray you with it. And you would know this because? ? Let's not hijack the thread but this is how I know.
|
|
|
Post by bigbill on Jan 18, 2014 15:45:01 GMT -8
Happy Birthday I never realized that stuff was like that but when you think about it it probably uses propane as the propellent, many things do.
|
|
pirateslife
Active Member
Posts: 426
Likes: 137
1969 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by pirateslife on Jan 18, 2014 18:33:04 GMT -8
Think I'm gonna start a new dance called the "shasta twist" based on all the movements required to pull the dang twist nails
|
|
jannica
Active Member
Posts: 185
Likes: 26
Currently Offline
|
Post by jannica on Jan 19, 2014 19:13:59 GMT -8
So I started to shellac a birch panel today to see how hard it would be, and it actually wasn't that bad. It's amazing how pretty it looks after only two coats! I'm not sure about this panel though. It has some greenish streaks in it in a few spots. Is this normal? I'm wondering if I should call the place I bought it from and ask them to replace it. The other panels I bought from there didn't have these streaks.
|
|
|
Post by vikx on Jan 19, 2014 22:06:07 GMT -8
No, the streaks aren't normal. I'm going to start a new thread. Grrrrr.
|
|
John Palmer
Senior Member
Hi, From a vintage trailer guy located in Santa Ana, CA. It's good to see lots of activity here.
Posts: 1,629
Likes: 576
Currently Offline
|
Post by John Palmer on Jan 19, 2014 22:19:21 GMT -8
So I started to shellac a birch panel today to see how hard it would be, and it actually wasn't that bad. It's amazing how pretty it looks after only two coats! I'm not sure about this panel though. It has some greenish streaks in it in a few spots. Is this normal? I'm wondering if I should call the place I bought it from and ask them to replace it. The other panels I bought from there didn't have these streaks.
|
|