Post by cardinal1957 on Apr 4, 2018 19:32:54 GMT -8
We will be moving our 57 Cardinal in a couple of months across five states and I would rather tow it on my car trailer. It is a steel flatbed about 18' long. Has anyone hauled their trailer like this and how would I winch it up on the bed? I was thinking to load it backwards so it would be more wind resistant? Any ideas? Thanks
TEN is the King of flatbed towing. So you have the attention of the right member.
No, not the "king" by far, limited by my equipment. But I have done it and it worked out well.
Some time ago I bought a car hauler trailer with the intention of pulling home a pre-'64 Compact in one trip. That hasn't happened yet, but I have put it to work. The trailer is about 18 feet with the center open, equipped with slide-out ramps, winch, and electric tongue jack.
My first trip was for the 1964 Airflyte. It was 160 miles form home, thirty-five years parked in the woods. The owner pulled it to the roadway and loaded it with his tractor's three-point hitch. It worked well with only the angle of the ramps being a problem. The tractor had to back onto the ramps a bit in order to place it far enough up onto the trailer. A few adjustments for clearance and a little jockeying, and it came off without a hitch...so to speak...
We loaded it backwards so that I could hook it off with the truck at the other end of the trip. The camper had to sit up in order for the walls to clear the fenders of the hauler. The axle fit between, but the overall width didn't. The step was the hardest part to clear while loading it.
Tightly secured it rode home without any problems and with quite a few looks along the expressway.
The next adventure was a little more involved, a 1600-mile round trip solo mission retrieving the 1970 16SC. I had to load alone, and by the time I got there, I was finishing about 11:30 at night, trying to not keep the neighborhood awake.
The axle is a lot wider and would not fit between the fenders. I had to choose between leaving it behind or backing it over the fenders alone. I can't say I have ever been luckier, as it fell right where it had to be when it went off the fenders. A slight miss would have left the camper hanging helpless off the ends and would have meant jacking and blocking with no materials to do so all night. Once it was on the trailer, I couldn't get the hitch to release from the coupler. A bit of magic with the winch and a lot of sweating and it tied down for the trip home.
The 16SC is wider and it has more hanging under it, so clearance was an even bigger consideration. The outlet and the black tank barely cleared the fender. At some point, probably during loading, the tank struck the fender and blew out the top of the tank. Fortunately that was the only damage from the trip.
It's sure funny seeing those tail lights in the mirror, but you get used to it after 800 miles.
The last one I pulled home (on the trailer that is...) was a 1965? Pathfinder. It was a 55 mile trip from home, and is a lot lighter and smaller than the other two. This time it was my failing memory that was the tough part. I forgot the 2" hitch to load with. I almost left it but, believe it or not, my wife convinced me to keep trying. We found a couple old planks to run up the center and loaded it with the winch. The tongue jack had the wheel on it or it would not have worked. It went easily because it was so light. A trailer with the steel deck would not present this much of a challenge pulling on. Tied down it never moved.
This trailer was narrow enough and nothing really hanging so clearance was not much of an issue, for a change. Unloading was just the opposite of loading, let it out easy with the winch with the trailer front end elevated and rolled 'er out on the grass.
Three things about pulling them this way. First, the phrase "properly secured". If you tie down properly with chains and binders as well as straps, and nothing is flapping in the breeze loose, which could blow off into traffic, you should never have any trouble with law enforcement, because that is the biggest issue so far as compliance with hauling laws.
Second, you will face a 95% chance that no matter how much you plan ahead, you will find some surprise problem loading, usually regarding clearances. It's something to do with "Murphy's Law", and boy if I ever get my hands on that Murphy.....
Third has to do with the question of wind resistance. You may be able to tell from the photos above that it does not matter which direction they are facing. Once you load them above the line of the box of the pickup (assuming you tow with a truck), their face or rear is directly in the wind. The 16SC was like towing a brick sail for 800 miles, and averaged 9 miles to the gallon all the way home.
Whatever you end up doing, remember to take time to get some photos along the way. It's fun to look back on any of these adventures. I've had too many that I didn't take photos, and sure do wish I had.
Post by charliemyers on Apr 6, 2018 11:58:33 GMT -8
That's the way I loaded up our '64 Compact which was about 500 miles each way on a similarly sized trailer, but it had a wooden deck. I borrowed the trailer from a friend of mine & headed down with the assumption that the camper would fit. The tires fit between the fender wells with about 1" to spare on each side, but I had to run them up onto "2 by" boards to get the campers aluminum up over the trailer's fender wells.
I didn't have a winch to use, but man that would have been REALLY handy to have.
Also notice the trailers are being hauled on low deck trailers. I friend of mine borrowed a wide deck trailer that went over the top of the trailer tires, made for a perfect fit, but he forgot about the increased height and ripped the whole top off the camper on a low overpass. Remember drivethrus, building overhangs, and many others things are disaster to a high load and some overpasses. Measure total height to highest point before starting out, then watch for signs or low clearance spots.
One more thing cover all open areas like broken doors/windows, aluminum coming loose or any other openings as they can act like parachute and cause extreme damage to your trailer. I always took a tarp ropes and the wonderful roll of duct tape when going after a new find.
Post by cardinal1957 on Apr 8, 2018 15:22:08 GMT -8
I am in the process of putting the metal back on mine. We were in the process of rebuilding her and decided to move 1300 miles away. For safety reasons I decided to put her on the flatbed car hauler I have. The rear of the Cardinal is sloped more than the front so I figured to load it rear first. I was wondering about the height after loading her? I will have to do some checking on brige heights on our route.
Post by SimonTuffGuy on Jun 26, 2018 5:00:57 GMT -8
I know this thread has been stagnant for a few months, but posting more pictures never hurts.
I picked up my inlaws 73 Shasta 1400 from a camp where it's been staying at for the last 40 years. I borrowed a deckover trailer from a friend through work (we do IT work for their company). The trailer had a power lift and winch.
We attached a piece of wood to the bottom of the jack, secured it with a pair of screws, and then winched it up onto the trailer. We used blocks of wood and wheel chocks to "turn" it into the proper position and then secured everything down. Total drive home was under 100 miles, we stopped every 20-25 miles or so to check the straps and chains.