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Post by mel on Jan 31, 2018 12:38:47 GMT -8
So I was planning on using ACE rust stop or Valspar anti rust armor paint, but they both are discontinued. I liked those choices because they are tintable and I have known people who have used them with good results. So what are my other options for similar paint? I would like to be able to tint my own color.
suggestions on how many gallons it will take for the Airflyte and for the Compact, I am open to painting them the same color to save on money.
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Post by nccamper on Jan 31, 2018 14:34:41 GMT -8
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Post by mel on Jan 31, 2018 16:49:06 GMT -8
nccamper List Price: $67.49 is a bit steep considering that the other two sold for around $35 a gallon. I have not checked ACE for an alternative, good Idea. How many gallons did you use on the Compact and on the Forester? also is the forester about the same length/size as an Airflyte? I search the lowes in stock search thing and apparently there are 3 gallons of the Valspar one left about 45mins away from me. I would need to make the decision quick though because I assume it will be gone soon. Have you heard of anyone using the Rust-Oleum one? I suppose if I could get the bottom tinted with the lowes one or if ace has an alternative then use the rustolum white for the top. www.lowes.com/pd/Rust-Oleum-Professional-Safety-Blue-Gloss-Oil-based-Enamel-Interior-Exterior-Paint-Actual-Net-Contents-128-fl-oz/3381340
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Post by danrhodes on Jan 31, 2018 19:12:41 GMT -8
Valspar tractor worked great for me
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Post by nccamper on Jan 31, 2018 20:09:53 GMT -8
I used about 1/2 a gallon primer and 1/2 gallon paint on the compact.
The Forester took about the same primer and a little more paint.
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Post by vikx on Jan 31, 2018 21:14:52 GMT -8
I went to the local paint store and asked for oil based paint:
Benjamin Moore urethane high gloss alkyd. It was definitely oil based, as paint thinner works as a clean up. I'd never heard of Alkyd before but it can be tinted and went on very easily. We used 2 quarts of turquoise and about the same of white. I rolled the roof with Rustoleum oil based gloss white. It goes on thick and settles really well on an embossed roof.
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Post by mel on Feb 1, 2018 4:35:41 GMT -8
I went to the local paint store and asked for oil based paint: Benjamin Moore urethane high gloss alkyd. It was definitely oil based, as paint thinner works as a clean up. I'd never heard of Alkyd before but it can be tinted and went on very easily. We used 2 quarts of turquoise and about the same of white. I rolled the roof with Rustoleum oil based gloss white. It goes on thick and settles really well on an embossed roof. Thanks, I'll check it out. It looks like Valparaiso has a alkyd too, does say it oil based. Do you spray the rest of the camper? www.lowes.com/pd/Valspar-Ultra-4000-Satin-Oil-based-Enamel-Interior-Exterior-Paint-Actual-Net-Contents-126-fl-oz/4732011 |
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Post by vikx on Feb 1, 2018 11:29:59 GMT -8
Absolutely, spray is the way to go. Rolling leaves a "rough" look, not my cuppa...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 15:26:29 GMT -8
I'm a little late to this thread. Is there a reason you don't want to go with a high quality automotive paint like PPG Omni single stage urethane? Would cost you less than $400 and the finish and durability would be superb. Probably a minor added expense in the grand scheme of things that would easily pay for itself if you ever sell the trailer.
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Post by mel on Feb 1, 2018 15:54:43 GMT -8
I'm a little late to this thread. Is there a reason you don't want to go with a high quality automotive paint like PPG Omni single stage urethane? Would cost you less than $400 and the finish and durability would be superb. Probably a minor added expense in the grand scheme of things that would easily pay for itself if you ever sell the trailer. It all comes down to money for me. I restored my compact and spent way too much money on it as I thought it was going to be for me, but I decided I wanted a larger camper. So I got the Airflyte then life circumstances happened which effected my budget greatly . All thats left in the Compact is paint and cushion covers then I need to sell. And I will just be getting started on the Airflyte this spring and I really want a more lived in camper, just the bare minimum to make it safe. I want it to be nice and period correct but not a show pony. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 15:57:40 GMT -8
Yeah...that minor detail called "budget" has a definite impact on the "how" things are done. We all know "what" needs to be done, but there are many less expensive alternatives to get there in the end.
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Post by nccamper on Feb 2, 2018 7:20:44 GMT -8
PPG Omni single stage urethane? Would cost you less than $400 and the finish and durability would be superb. I agree, the end product is excellent with PPG paint and primer. Although it cost me closer to $600 without prep materials. I had extra paint so you really could use the same color on both campers. My guess is the Compact will easily pay (profit) for the Airflyte restoration There were cheaper auto paints like NAPA that you can buy right from the auto parts stores. One thing that's nice about cheaper paint (like ACE before they discontinued it) is you can buy a small can and experiment with the color for around $10. You mix the color and decide to add a little more blue (For example) they're happy to do it. If you take it home and use a foam pad to paint a piece of scrap, but aren't happy, pay $10 and try again. From my experience companies selling auto paint won't alter the color but they will be happy to sell you a new color (quart) for another $100+. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:47:47 GMT -8
As nccamper states, a gallon of paint will easily cover (2) small campers. I plan on spraying both my Catalina and a car I'm restoring the same color, so (1) gallon will cover both. So effectively, my true paint cost will be closer to $200 for the Catalina. A tinted primer will help assure good coverage to further minimize quantity used.
If you want to use a specific color in automotive paint, one option is to color match it. I will be doing this for the deep red I'm planning to use. I restored a '69 Camaro back in my younger days and the color was absolutely stunning. I have pictures of that car that will be used to identify a match for me to use today.
You can experiment with less expensive paint to get the color you want, then have it matched to an automotive version. Everything is done with the latest in imaging technology, so it will be exact.
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Post by CorvettCrzy on Feb 3, 2018 20:03:10 GMT -8
mel I spent an afternoon last spring calling around to all the ACE stores in lower MI and found a couple who still had some of the paint and tint. One is in one of the Northern suburbs. I ended up getting mine in Davison. I went there because they were on my way up and I had been able to talk to someone. They had to creep down to the basement where the old equipment and tints were, but I walked out with 2 tinted gallons of paint. They were very helpful. I'll have to see if I can find the name of the other store, seemed like it was a fairly large one and not a "chain" store.
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Post by mel on Feb 4, 2018 5:01:39 GMT -8
mel I spent an afternoon last spring calling around to all the ACE stores in lower MI and found a couple who still had some of the paint and tint. One is in one of the Northern suburbs. I ended up getting mine in Davison. I went there because they were on my way up and I had been able to talk to someone. They had to creep down to the basement where the old equipment and tints were, but I walked out with 2 tinted gallons of paint. They were very helpful. I'll have to see if I can find the name of the other store, seemed like it was a fairly large one and not a "chain" store. I looked it up on their online tracker and it showed no stores within a 100miles of me. But I guess they have it in the basement it may not be on there. Yes let me know if you find the list. I am really considering heading to the lowes down river to get the Valpar one this week. |
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