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Post by mobiltec on Sept 28, 2017 17:47:40 GMT -8
I think one of those staplers that is used for roofing would be the best, if a person was going to staple the siding down. No we are talking about the seam lock on the upper side sheet that get's stapled down along the middle of the trailer. Then the bottom sheet slides up into it. |
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Post by mrmarty51 on Sept 29, 2017 15:32:44 GMT -8
I think one of those staplers that is used for roofing would be the best, if a person was going to staple the siding down. No we are talking about the seam lock on the upper side sheet that get's stapled down along the middle of the trailer. Then the bottom sheet slides up into it. YUP, I used staples and they all pulled out. I thinking they were only 5/8ths inch though. The original siding had been stapled on the flange and they did okay for many years. I think that if the roofing staples were to be used, them things`d probably never pull out under any circumstances. Except for rotted wood circumstances. LOL |
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Post by danrhodes on Oct 17, 2017 7:53:51 GMT -8
mobiltec nccamper what type of screws did you use on the upper portion of the seam lock? This buldge gets worse every day, the staples have deformed the lower metal when it contracts at night, and it all needs to come apart and be repaired properly. My concern is using pan head screws will block the lower portion from entering the upper groove in the seam.
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 17, 2017 10:04:00 GMT -8
You don't use screws. I use 3/4 inch long 1/4 inch crown staples. I always replace the wood that the staples for the seam lock go into. Never had a problem before.
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Post by mrmarty51 on Oct 18, 2017 4:23:39 GMT -8
You don't use screws. I use 3/4 inch long 1/4 inch crown staples. I always replace the wood that the staples for the seam lock go into. Never had a problem before. I think that is where I messed up on My build. I just used the T-50 staples, I used the longest ones that the stapler would drive in completely, 5/8ths in. IIRC. There is one little bulge, on the back of the trailer where there is a staple that I missed getting drove in all the way, caused from the roofing being stretched so tight. I think that if a person used pan head screws that there might be a bulge where evey screws is located. Not sure though if the bulge would transfer through the lock joint or not though. I did check with the local lumber/hardware stores, looking for one of those roofing staplers, none were available locally. I think that they are listed on Amazon and ebay, I just did not want to wait for the shipping for one to get here. Mom always told Me, "Hind sight is 20/20." LOL |
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Post by mel on Oct 18, 2017 7:34:14 GMT -8
mobiltec nccamper what type of screws did you use on the upper portion of the seam lock? This buldge gets worse every day, the staples have deformed the lower metal when it contracts at night, and it all needs to come apart and be repaired properly. My concern is using pan head screws will block the lower portion from entering the upper groove in the seam. Are you going to repaint the black a different color? |
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Post by danrhodes on Oct 18, 2017 9:41:29 GMT -8
mobiltec nccamper what type of screws did you use on the upper portion of the seam lock? This buldge gets worse every day, the staples have deformed the lower metal when it contracts at night, and it all needs to come apart and be repaired properly. My concern is using pan head screws will block the lower portion from entering the upper groove in the seam. Are you going to repaint the black a different color? No, its mostly OK in other areas with doors and windows to anchor it to the wall and it matches my truck. If it was a continual problem, I could always tarp that side to keep the direct sun off. In this area, I'll probably have to remove the lower panel and attach the upper lock with a better fastener...it's already stapled every 4 inches with 3/4" narrow crown staples and they have all pulled out. I'm thinking of a low profile screw head...the staples have already dimpled the aluminum, so a small screw head underneath won't look any worse. Another live and learn moment in this weird hobby. |
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 18, 2017 9:52:59 GMT -8
Are you going to repaint the black a different color? No, its mostly OK in other areas with doors and windows to anchor it to the wall and it matches my truck. If it was a continual problem, I could always tarp that side to keep the direct sun off. In this area, I'll probably have to remove the lower panel and attach the upper lock with a better fastener...it's already stapled every 4 inches with 3/4" narrow crown staples and they have all pulled out. I'm thinking of a low profile screw head...the staples have already dimpled the aluminum, so a small screw head underneath won't look any worse. Another live and learn moment in this weird hobby. You made a mistake so we don't have to Dan. I suggest that anyone reading this thread make sure to use NEW WOOD where ever seam locks are present. I use poplar because it is really had wood. Pine, even though it may not be rotted is very soft and get's softer with age. |
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Post by danrhodes on Oct 18, 2017 12:32:05 GMT -8
No, its mostly OK in other areas with doors and windows to anchor it to the wall and it matches my truck. If it was a continual problem, I could always tarp that side to keep the direct sun off. In this area, I'll probably have to remove the lower panel and attach the upper lock with a better fastener...it's already stapled every 4 inches with 3/4" narrow crown staples and they have all pulled out. I'm thinking of a low profile screw head...the staples have already dimpled the aluminum, so a small screw head underneath won't look any worse. Another live and learn moment in this weird hobby. You made a mistake so we don't have to Dan. I suggest that anyone reading this thread make sure to use NEW WOOD where ever seam locks are present. I use poplar because it is really hard wood. Pine, even though it may not be rotted is very soft and get's softer with age. That's definitely the case here. It's amazing how hard it is to get old staples out, yet new ones really don't hold in the old soft yellow pine. It's good advice to use hard wood like poplar for many repairs...I regret not using it for my ceiling joists as the soft home depot white wood really sags. |
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Post by mel on Oct 18, 2017 14:17:27 GMT -8
mobiltec where do you find the poplar? does HD or lowes sell it?
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 18, 2017 17:49:53 GMT -8
mobiltec where do you find the poplar? does HD or lowes sell it? Lowes tends to have the best selection of Poplar as far as big box stores go. It's expensive... |
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Post by mel on Oct 19, 2017 4:52:08 GMT -8
mobiltec where do you find the poplar? does HD or lowes sell it? Lowes tends to have the best selection of Poplar as far as big box stores go. It's expensive... I think ill end up using it for the roof of the airflyte, probably no where else though. I want the airflyte to look nice, but im not going to be as crazy about everything being perfect like I was with the Compact. I get so paranoid im going to break or ruin something on the compact or that someone is going to crash into me while towing, I want to just be able to relax while im in/towing the Airflyte. so that means less money spent on this one  |
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 19, 2017 6:20:44 GMT -8
Lowes tends to have the best selection of Poplar as far as big box stores go. It's expensive... I think ill end up using it for the roof of the airflyte, probably no where else though. I want the airflyte to look nice, but im not going to be as crazy about everything being perfect like I was with the Compact. I get so paranoid im going to break or ruin something on the compact or that someone is going to crash into me while towing, I want to just be able to relax while im in/towing the Airflyte. so that means less money spent on this one  Just make sure you replace the nailer or backing where the seam locks are with poplar. The staples won't pull out of that. |
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Post by danrhodes on Jul 19, 2018 8:31:38 GMT -8
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Post by violamomof4 on Jul 8, 2019 19:45:40 GMT -8
Many of us have had swelling aluminum. Tasteful screws are not forbidden and help. Honestly, I'd rather see screws than floppy siding. I ALWAYS mark stud locations just in case. (window frames come in handy with a black marker dot) You’re saying you like to use screws at the top where the skin is attached instead of staples? Correct? That’s better? My husband just finished putting the skin on our ‘54 Jewel and used staples. Should he do screws at top by the roof instead?  |
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