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Post by agent99 on Jun 4, 2014 9:17:33 GMT -8
Great advise! I got a bill of sale for mine, checked out with DMV that it was no longer in the system so I was good to go. But, I also found during demo the last pink! An unsigned pink. My DMV guy confirmed I was now golden. Thank goodness for my time capsule! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wow! What a great find! Good for you. I find all kinds of things in them, but never get that lucky. Nice! |
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Post by lakewoodgirl on Jun 4, 2014 11:38:56 GMT -8
Trust me. I never get that lucky either. Even my husband was shocked & elated by the discovery!
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Post by real550A on Jun 5, 2014 4:59:14 GMT -8
I resurrected an old grain truck from a farm field last winter that had no title or record at the DMV. With a bill of sale, statement of facts, and a picture of all 4 sides, I was able to get plates and registration. New MN title arrived 3 weeks later. I hope things go that smooth with the Bee!
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Post by gmcnunez71 on Sept 3, 2014 16:53:53 GMT -8
hey guys so im in the process of trying to get a FREE trailer however I was told that with out it being currently registered I would have to get the one day permit to allow me to move the trailer, but when I went to go get it I was informed that there are $651 worth of fees and that they would have to be paid off before I could get the permit, but if somehow the trailer was to magically move to were I needed would I still be responsible for the fees in order to register it in my name? so I guess in short do fees transfer from seller to buyer?
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Post by bigbill on Sept 3, 2014 19:24:05 GMT -8
Everything depends on what state you live in.
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Post by gmcnunez71 on Sept 3, 2014 19:30:49 GMT -8
The worst one. California
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Post by John Palmer on Sept 3, 2014 19:33:39 GMT -8
hey guys so im in the process of trying to get a FREE trailer however I was told that with out it being currently registered I would have to get the one day permit to allow me to move the trailer, but when I went to go get it I was informed that there are $651 worth of fees and that they would have to be paid off before I could get the permit, but if somehow the trailer was to magically move to were I needed would I still be responsible for the fees in order to register it in my name? so I guess in short do fees transfer from seller to buyer? I have heard that sometimes it's "really hard" to find the VIN# on these old trailer's. |
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Post by John Palmer on Sept 3, 2014 19:37:25 GMT -8
The worst one. California As of the first of this year (2014), California has decided to go back seven years on past due DMV fees, which will make many old trailers worthless to bring back. |
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 5, 2014 20:13:46 GMT -8
My greatest gift of information that I could possibly pass on to you is this. Never EVER buy a trailer with only a bill of sale.... UNLESS you can get the seller to go down with you to the DMV and help you go through the process before you pay for the trailer. In California, there is now a new law that adds an automatic $200 to the entire process just because there is no title. Matters not the reason. Also you will have to pay 3 years back fees and penalties which can add up to several hundred dollars all by itself. If you are purchasing a $600 trailer and have to pay $700 just to get it registered, it better damn well be the trailer you want. So good luck on your hunt and try to come out a winner. I just went to AAA today to check on what steps would be necessary to license a 1947 trailer. It has no title and no plate/registration. They looked it up by the serial number and couldn't find anything. The AAA guy told me that i could just start over with PTI plates as it's under 15 feet and that the trailer can't be found in the system. He never mentioned the automatic $200. I quiried him on if there would be any back fees and he said, no because it has no plates or history, therefore I can start from scratch. I am in California. What gives?  |
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 5, 2014 20:50:03 GMT -8
My greatest gift of information that I could possibly pass on to you is this. Never EVER buy a trailer with only a bill of sale.... UNLESS you can get the seller to go down with you to the DMV and help you go through the process before you pay for the trailer. In California, there is now a new law that adds an automatic $200 to the entire process just because there is no title. Matters not the reason. Also you will have to pay 3 years back fees and penalties which can add up to several hundred dollars all by itself. If you are purchasing a $600 trailer and have to pay $700 just to get it registered, it better damn well be the trailer you want. So good luck on your hunt and try to come out a winner. I just went to AAA today to check on what steps would be necessary to license a 1947 trailer. It has no title and no plate/registration. They looked it up by the serial number and couldn't find anything. The AAA guy told me that i could just start over with PTI plates as it's under 15 feet and that the trailer can't be found in the system. He never mentioned the automatic $200. I quiried him on if there would be any back fees and he said, no because it has no plates or history, therefore I can start from scratch. I am in California. What gives? You know I have no idea what happened to the $200 non refundable deposit. It stopped me from purchasing a trailer and then I never heard about it again so who knows? Sorry I don't know. So the old rules are still intact I guess. If it's been out of the system for more than 10 years they just start all over. Sorry about the mix up but it happened to me that once and like I said I never heard about it again. The thing to do is go to the DMV first and see what is involved. |
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Post by John Palmer on Sept 5, 2014 20:53:12 GMT -8
My greatest gift of information that I could possibly pass on to you is this. Never EVER buy a trailer with only a bill of sale.... UNLESS you can get the seller to go down with you to the DMV and help you go through the process before you pay for the trailer. In California, there is now a new law that adds an automatic $200 to the entire process just because there is no title. Matters not the reason. Also you will have to pay 3 years back fees and penalties which can add up to several hundred dollars all by itself. If you are purchasing a $600 trailer and have to pay $700 just to get it registered, it better damn well be the trailer you want. So good luck on your hunt and try to come out a winner. I just went to AAA today to check on what steps would be necessary to license a 1947 trailer. It has no title and no plate/registration. They looked it up by the serial number and couldn't find anything. The AAA guy told me that i could just start over with PTI plates as it's under 15 feet and that the trailer can't be found in the system. He never mentioned the automatic $200. I quiried him on if there would be any back fees and he said, no because it has no plates or history, therefore I can start from scratch. I am in California. What gives? For many of us "Vintage" is very important. Having the title state that it's a 1953 "something" is very important if you desire to use a 1953 Y.O.M. (year of manufacture) license plate. If you spend thousands of dollars, plus hundreds of hours restoring your trailer it's the little things that make it cool to own. As restorer's, we believe it ad's value to have it all correct inside, outside, and the paperwork should also match.
On the other hand, you can take your original 1953 trailer to the DMV for a VIN# verification, and they will gladly register it as a "new built" 2014 trailer, and issue a "new 2014 title", rather than looking it up and correctly registering it as what it actually is. The problem IMO, is that they have no way to really say what it is after the title is out of their system for seven years and drops from the DMV records. If you choose to go with the new 2014 title route, you will never be able to go with a Y.O.M. plate. It's just my opinion, but the trailer value is depreciated with a 2014 title on a "real" 1953 trailer. To me, it makes sense to fight for the correct title information.
It makes no sense but they do it every day. If you asked them to register your 1953 Chevy, as a 2014 Chevrolet they would call it fraud! Go figure?
The most important thing to remember is you want this all resolved BEFORE it's restored. Because the annual license registration is based on a percentage of the value. It's better to have a $500 "falling apart" trailer to establish the purchase price, not after you have spent $20K restoring it!
One more thing, AAA is great if you have a vehicle with current registration, or a title, they will quickly handle the ownership change. They cannot do a VIN# verification, or handle a Y.O.M. plate paperwork. You will need to tow your 1947 Teardrop into the local DMV office, and pull up to the inspection lane, "push the bell outside, and wait in line".
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Post by unclemuscles on Oct 19, 2014 10:19:48 GMT -8
Hi all, I am brand new to these forums. I thought I would share my recent VIN adventure here in Southern CA. I recently purchased an old, beat up, in need of TLC, 10'-12' camper trailer (canned ham). When making the purchase, there were no plates or VIN I could find. The owner had NO paperwork whatsoever (which helped with the price negotiations). Before purchasing, I thought I found the found the VIN on the frame and called the DMV as well as a Auto Title company. They traced it as a POSSIBLE 1965 Shasta. I knew it couldn't have been that because the body didn't fit a Shasta of that year. It was looking like I could have it registered for about $75-$100 through a registration service. I spoke with several vintage trailer people over the phone and decided that for the price I bought it for, I would take the chance. If I couldn't register it, oh well… I would be out a couple hundred dollars and I was sure I could sell it to someone who could use it for something else. I bought the trailer, got it home and upon further inspection, found the actual VIN on the frame (I don't know what the other numbers I saw were exactly). I called the DMV and the VIN had "fallen out of records". They had no trace of it. Also, With further research, I figured out it is a 1955 Cal Craft (Very similar to an Aljoa). I had the owner sign the bill of sale and a new title transfer form (I had to go back to the seller to get the title form signed). I brought the trailer to the DMV. They inspected the old VIN, ran it in their system, and issued new VIN for the trailer on the spot. It is registered as a 1955 Cal Craft with a brand new VIN and new plates. Total cost was $86. The whole process took about 3 hours at the DMV. Most of that time was waiting for the VIN inspector to come out. All in all, pretty painless. Now, on with the renovation :/  |
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Post by tattoonate on May 9, 2015 15:22:28 GMT -8
I just bought a shasta camper 1966 but not sure bout the vin I found the number on the tongue but I got 5 numbers and no letters could this be right 30240 please help
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Post by theresa on May 9, 2015 16:58:56 GMT -8
This type of thread is disappointing to someone like me. I'm lucky enough to live in Maine, where, as Cowcharge says, trailers are VERY easy to get registered. A bill of sale, and you're good to go. The reason this information is disappointing, is because IF I ever were to sell any of my trailers to someone out of state, I know they'll be hesitant to buy without a title. The state of Maine won't issue me a title (I asked, I work for the State). So the most I could offer a perspective buyer is a bill of sale, and a declaration of some sort from a state representative indicating that no title was necessary to register in the state of Maine. How that holds up in other states is minimal, at best? From my standpoint, I could lost out on a potential sale because of the fear of what they may go through on their end, depending of course on the state they live in.
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Post by vintagebruce on May 9, 2015 19:09:21 GMT -8
California truly is a very strange place. Sorry for the dig, but I can not for the life of me figure out why anyone would want or choose voluntarily to live there.
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