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Post by ndpap on Aug 29, 2013 9:02:09 GMT -8
Just watching my husband and next-door neighbor as they paint our '61 Airflyte, Daisy Mae. We're using Majic tractor paint - International Harvester White (which matches the original top color almost perfectly) and "old" John Deere Yellow. I am very excited - what a transformation! Can you ask your Husband what pressure he had the compressor set on while he sprayed the paint... And after that I will try not to ask you anymore questions... We Just bought the I.H. white and I.H. Red from TSC...Your husbands work is inspiring!!!!
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Post by 65callie on Aug 29, 2013 9:12:14 GMT -8
Just watching my husband and next-door neighbor as they paint our '61 Airflyte, Daisy Mae. We're using Majic tractor paint - International Harvester White (which matches the original top color almost perfectly) and "old" John Deere Yellow. I am very excited - what a transformation! Can you ask your Husband what pressure he had the compressor set on while he sprayed the paint... And after that I will try not to ask you anymore questions... We Just bought the I.H. white and I.H. Red from TSC...Your husbands work is inspiring!!!! Hi Hoosierpoet, 65Callie here asking another question(s): I also would like to know the pressure setting on the compressor, if known, but I'm sure different sprayers require different pressure? Also, before priming & painting, what did you wash or wipe it down with? I know others have posted great painting info in the past, probably even recently, but you are "lucky" enough to have caught everyone's attention this time around! Appreciate you're taking the time to reply to all of us. Thanks!
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 29, 2013 12:49:55 GMT -8
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Post by hoosierpoet on Aug 29, 2013 13:49:35 GMT -8
Can you ask your Husband what pressure he had the compressor set on while he sprayed the paint... And after that I will try not to ask you anymore questions... We Just bought the I.H. white and I.H. Red from TSC...Your husbands work is inspiring!!!! Hi Hoosierpoet, 65Callie here asking another question(s): I also would like to know the pressure setting on the compressor, if known, but I'm sure different sprayers require different pressure? Also, before priming & painting, what did you wash or wipe it down with? I know others have posted great painting info in the past, probably even recently, but you are "lucky" enough to have caught everyone's attention this time around! Appreciate you're taking the time to reply to all of us. Thanks! Pressure was 85, the Hubby says it's an oil-pump style compressor (if anyone needs to know?). We washed it with some diluted car-wash stuff, I would think anything you'd wash a car with would work. Important part was getting off the old putty and any grease, paint thinner on a rag worked for that. Our neighbor's the one who did the actual spraying, he's done cars before but said this is the first time he didn't have a single paint run. I think the paint is a good choice. I feel flattered that Mobiltec is entertained! He doesn't know it- but he's provided me with several months of late-night entertainment on my Kindle - if you havent't watched his video series, I definitely recommend it.
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Post by bigbill on Aug 29, 2013 15:04:12 GMT -8
The pressure that you spray at depends on the type of gun you use and the thickness of the paint. Also are you talking at the gun or at the compressor? If you set your air pressure at the compressor the length and diameter of your air hose will effect the pressure at the gun. Assuming you are spraying enamel with a conventional gun you probably need about 50 psi at the gun. If your pressure is to low the paint won't be smooth/atomized, if pressure is to high you will have excessive over spray. If available read the directions on the paint and the paint gun. A little experimenting on some scrap will tell you how it is working, also you can adjust the trigger stop and the mixture/pattern on most guns.
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Post by hoosierpoet on Aug 29, 2013 15:43:28 GMT -8
The pressure that you spray at depends on the type of gun you use and the thickness of the paint. Also are you talking at the gun or at the compressor? If you set your air pressure at the compressor the length and diameter of your air hose will effect the pressure at the gun. Assuming you are spraying enamel with a conventional gun you probably need about 50 psi at the gun. If your pressure is to low the paint won't be smooth/atomized, if pressure is to high you will have excessive over spray. If available read the directions on the paint and the paint gun. A little experimenting on some scrap will tell you how it is working, also you can adjust the trigger stop and the mixture/pattern on most guns. I think he was talking about the compressor. I left it to the guys - figured I'd already rebuilt the trailer (at least, the parts that needed it!) and spent 2 days prepping for paint. I got to sit in a lawn chair and supervise for a change!
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 29, 2013 15:55:02 GMT -8
Oh Im really enjoying this because the absolute biggest problem I have with restoring a trailer is keeping a good painter. So I just want to learn to do it myself. I've seen beautiful paint jobs at the rallies and most of them were done by their owners or the next door neighbor. It can't be all that hard but there are some things that need to be known before I start. I have a lot of extra metal skin lying around here to practice with and will be sure to make video of my learning process. I make mistakes so you don't have to... And thanks goes to you Hoosierpoet for puting this up for our benefit.
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Post by bigbill on Aug 29, 2013 16:47:46 GMT -8
Hoosierpoet I was not trying to correct you or steal your thunder I was just trying to give some general directions to who ever might want them. I tried to squeeze two weeks of training into one paragraph. Larry it is a simple task all it takes is practice and the desire to read and follow directions for thinning and mixing that are printed on most cans. If i can do it anybody can.
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Post by txoil on Aug 29, 2013 18:20:57 GMT -8
larry, I highly recommend using an HVLP spray gun...it moves a lot of fluid at relatively low pressure so there is MUCH less overspray and less wasted. The finish is also a finer finish, or rather it is easier to achieve a fine finish with HVLP guns. I have several myself, some bought new and some used from Ebay, but I'll never use a standard spray rig again.
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Post by ndpap on Aug 29, 2013 18:41:09 GMT -8
larry, I highly recommend using an HVLP spray gun...it moves a lot of fluid at relatively low pressure so there is MUCH less overspray and less wasted. The finish is also a finer finish, or rather it is easier to achieve a fine finish with HVLP guns. I have several myself, some bought new and some used from Ebay, but I'll never use a standard spray rig again. If we were to buy the HVLP spray gun ( they are in the Harbor Freight circular that arrived today), do you need a special compressor too? I have a huge compressor in my garage that my ex husband left, it has 2 wheels and stands about chest high!!! I don't think it has anything to do with oil though!!!
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Post by txoil on Aug 29, 2013 18:50:10 GMT -8
No you can use your standard compressor with an HVLP gun, you will be setting no more than 40-50 lbs at the compressor, and you need to buy a disposable inline drier which fits between your hose and the gun (about 8 dollars) to keep any moisture from condensation out of the paint. I have an oil-less Sears Craftsman compressor that I have used since 1996 and have painted a LOT of cars, gas pumps, soda machines and even our kitchen when we did a remodel. the key is to practice.. get some scrap sheet metal and practice before you start spraying your project, it is not difficult to get a great final finish!
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Post by ndpap on Aug 29, 2013 18:55:48 GMT -8
Thank you.... I will let my boyfriend know all this info we bought the Majic tractor paint today along with thinner, hardener and primer!!!!!!
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 29, 2013 19:23:58 GMT -8
Bill I was just told that some kinds of tractor paint can either harm you real bad or kill you real bad without the proper suit and respirator....
Here is a quote from the person who told me this.
"Of course John Deere does not make paint so I would think they relabel Dupont or PPG or BASF products. That said if the product is something like IMRON or another polyurethane product you had better spray it using an outside air source hood and suit. It WILL kill you. A urethane product is not as deadly but will permanently harm you if you don't use the correct respirator and filtered mask. They are more durable but be very careful spraying them."
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 29, 2013 19:26:39 GMT -8
I take it the HVLP stands for High Volume Low Pressure?
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Post by keri on Aug 29, 2013 19:29:37 GMT -8
"Permanently harm" how exactly? Because most of my friends would say I've ALREADY been permanently harmed based on my new trailer-restoration hobby alone.
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