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Post by prettywoman0172 on Feb 21, 2016 14:52:23 GMT -8
What is the black material (like soft wood, fiber board or cardboard almost) that sits on top of the frame and under the floor of the trailer? Some of it has been pulled off / fallen off and I pulled some more today to get a better look at the wood floor from the ground up. What is it and why is it there and how do I replace it?
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Post by chriss on Feb 21, 2016 18:45:09 GMT -8
I believe the trade name for it is Homasote. It's an insulating fiberboard, at least in building construction. You can still buy it at Home Depot and lumberyards and comes in brown or a black coating. We used to use the black coated stuff under house siding and stucco. It has some reasonable resistance to moisture, at least the black stuff does.
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Post by prettywoman0172 on Feb 21, 2016 19:05:58 GMT -8
Thanks! That was the info I needed. Does it need to be put back and if so is there a way for it to be put back without removing the frame? My frame will likely be removed so, easier to out it back then? How ls that done?
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Post by chriss on Feb 21, 2016 21:51:05 GMT -8
My trailer never had it, so I don't have any experience with it or how it was originally installed, and why some manufacturers used it abd others skipped it. Is it sandwiched between the floor and frame? It would be easy with the frame off I would think. Whether it should be replaced and how to do it, I'll leave that to someone else to respond.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 22, 2016 7:28:56 GMT -8
If the stuff is half inch thick you can see it in my 57 Shasta videos. I bought the new stuff at Home Depot in the insulation area. It comes in 4x8 foot sheets and is brown. I just painted it black to match.
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Post by chametzoo on Feb 22, 2016 13:04:59 GMT -8
I believe that Homasote can be soaked in petroleum, to make it impervious to mold growth and deflect most organic matter that would confront it from the road or ground. It also made it last a long long time. It was in very good condition on my Mobile Scout before the rebuild… it was the plywood on top of it that was in utter shambles! If your trailer is constructed like most, the side wall sandwiches are side bolted to lumber resting on the outer edge of your steel trailer frame. So, theoretically you could replace your floor layers without removing the walls. But I would suspect that if your entire floor needs to be replaced, your wooden edge framing is also not in good condition… which means the walls need to come down too. Also, if you were planning on removing your interior built in furnishings (base cabinets, wardrobe) to access the entire floor plate… your trailer will require bracing as to perfectly preserve the dimensional shape, so that all those furnishings can go back in and actually fit. Consult Mobile Scout's videos to completely understand the order in which components are assembled/disassembled. The floor materials used in my rebuild were, in this order: lumber on the steel frame (some clad in sheet metal… further protects wood/makes a good terminate shield), galvanized sheet metal (facing the road), 3/4" marine plywood, 1/4" oriented strand board (board joints filled with Bondo, sanded), Marmoleum sheet glued in place as finished floor.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 22, 2016 18:22:29 GMT -8
I think the stuff Shasta used was called Celletose? or something weird like that. There's a Cell in there somewhere. And the stuff you can get at Home Depot is actually called Sound Board for use under drywall to soundproof a room. It is oil soaked and will smolder and burn if you use a torch around it.
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Post by vikx on Feb 22, 2016 20:36:04 GMT -8
Celotex was the original product. I like it and try to save it whenever possible.
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Post by chametzoo on Feb 22, 2016 21:34:23 GMT -8
……. was called Celletose? or something weird like that. …….. According to this thread, it may have been called Homa-cella-texa-tose?
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Post by vikx on Feb 22, 2016 22:16:39 GMT -8
Chametzoo, you are too funny...
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Post by cowcharge on Mar 1, 2016 12:26:55 GMT -8
Mmmm, Texas Toast...
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