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Post by chametzoo on Dec 25, 2015 12:51:43 GMT -8
     I joined this forum back in early 2014 after purchasing a 1960 Mobile Scout 16 travel trailer. At the time, in my "travel-trailer-naive-delirium" (maybe you've been there too), I believed I was buying a ready to go restored specimen. The skirt lumber even passed the vaunted 'ice pick' test reasonably well. The PO seemed sincere and knowledgeable, so the deal was cut and the trailer was towed home; over 800 miles. It towed pretty well which reenforced my feeling that I had done good. When the trailer arrived home, over the next few weeks, there was lots of tinkering and personalizing. Along the way, though, I began to discover, within the hidden recesses and in the nooks and crannies… you named it: rot and a fair amount of mold. I began peeling corners away a bit at a time and the plot thickened. Mind you, the trailer was quite handsome to the naked eye but I began to realize that in both my naiveté and in my purchase, I had encountered an expert make up artist in this particular PO. Not only were the 'lip stick' techniques thorough, but in many cases, attractive and aesthetically appropriate. So my thoughts immediately went to: 'how do I make this right'? I still really liked the trailer; the style, layout, size etc. I made an assessment and decided to seek some professional help, given that I am not equipped nor do I have the property and space to make this a do-it-yourself project that many of you have taken on. My assessment said that I was looking at some frame repair, and some interior panel replacement… put the old skin back on and I'm done. Boy was I wrong. After consulting many restoration shops, I discovered an outfit in Salt Lake City, UT, "Camper Reparadise" [www.campereparadise.com]. I liked their can-do attitude and their shop rate was very reasonable. They also had fine examples to show of their trailer craft… in both canned ham and riveted skin types. So, I hit the road and upon my arrival they looked the trailer over and were impressed and optimistic about the limited nature of the work. They all loved the trailer and that so much of the original material and furnishings were still intact. But in the coming weeks as the skins were peeled off, another story entirely was revealed. Even these seasoned vets did not see it coming… neither did I: copious amounts of rot and deterioration. It was only the unibody nature of this trailer's construction that kept it from blowing apart on the road. The structural materials, for the most part were shot. In some places, as the skin was removed, splintered, even powdered wood fell to the floor; I saw the pictures from afar. There was evidence of termites and hornets nests within the walls. Mold was almost everywhere. Nothing except interior furnishings, windows, steel frame and a Vaillant on demand water heater were salvageable. Oh… the black tank, toilet, galley sink and Princess stove were still good… cold comfort at this point. So, determined, a new estimate was drawn up, with myself as 'chief architect' of this new and expanded project scope. Months of consultation, decisions, sketches and countless photographs, emails and text messages, took us throughout the summer months and into the fall. Finally in early November, my return trip to Salt Lake City to see the results of the labors of the boys (and the always present shop dogs) at Camper Reparadise. In short, a remarkable "recreation" of that 1960 Mobile Scout. At first it was odd seeing the ol' gal looking so spiffy and fresh… but after a few days it felt as cozy and familiar as ever. I'll also add that the shop employed some incredible structural detailing that will keep this trailer on the road for decades. It was very admirable their commitment not only to aesthetics but build integrity. Plumbing, gas and electrical systems were all well designed and generous in the amenity that they provide. Also, their were many on this forum who knowingly and unknowingly provided support and advice to me at those decision 'forks in the road'. Many thanks. And without further ado, a nice story board showing off the finished product at the Camper Reparadise website: campereparadise.com/wp/?page_id=6263Happy holidays… everyone!
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 25, 2015 17:17:34 GMT -8
It's just beautiful...
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Post by danrhodes on Dec 25, 2015 20:38:23 GMT -8
Beautiful work... Just to help us understand the state of the market, how much to get it in this condition?
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Post by nccamper on Dec 25, 2015 20:57:29 GMT -8
It looks great. I love the camper shape. Hammy. Well worth the effort.
Enjoy.
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Post by vikx on Dec 25, 2015 23:36:29 GMT -8
Thanks for sharing. I hope this helps some of our yet to be buyers out there UNDERSTAND....
Really a nice build!
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Post by chametzoo on Dec 26, 2015 14:24:29 GMT -8
Thanks everyone!… I'll get back to this thread later tonight when I have time and address some of your questions/comments...
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Post by vintagebruce on Dec 26, 2015 15:05:42 GMT -8
I'm sticking an imaginary fork in this ham and declaring it WELL DONE!! 
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Post by Hamlet on Dec 26, 2015 15:13:50 GMT -8
Beautiful! And it is testament to how much work YOU put into it despite not being the one who did the hands-on labor. Enjoy it to the max!
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Post by iceman77 on Dec 26, 2015 18:06:31 GMT -8
Beautiful restoration/rebuild. Hope you get years of enjoyment out of your beautiful investment.
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Post by chametzoo on Dec 26, 2015 23:51:20 GMT -8
Hey all. Thanks for your well wishes.
Larry: From this forum, I know the blood, sweat, tears you put into your rebuilds and educating the rest of us, so thanks for your thumbs up.
Vikx: Most definitely an education and my story can definitely be a cautionary tale to those just getting involved.
Hamlet: It was a lot of work for me… but definitely fun work… communicating with the shop in SLC, often while involved in my own daily work life. I knew when I brought the trailer in that there was a good chance that a more extensive rebuild would be involved… otherwise I would have towed the trailer as is, until it started to fall apart. My intention originally was to have a trailer I could use at will. Since I am not "made of money"… I made some sacrifices in order to pay for professional work… including a "second job" a few nights a week, to pay myself back and erase most of the debt over a reasonable timeframe in 2016.
With that said, I can speak to danrhodes question about cost for such a rebuild. The Camper Reparadise website states that canned ham rebuilds start at $25K and riveted skin at $65K. In my case, the former was just about right; 25K. I also specified and shipped parts and materials from my end, like the 3way Norcold and some specific bits and pieces including cushions and upholstery,so the total was a little more than that. Brandon Zinninger the head guy at CR, told me in all honesty that this was a 'break even' job for him. They definitely ran into some complications where the labor time went considerably beyond what they had anticipated and I was not charged for some of these overages. Just as a side note.
Given the demand and interest in restoring vintage trailers of all kinds, I feel fairly confident that this vehicle will retain value and it was a good investment, both financially and as a real asset. With that in mind, I obtained a valid professional market value appraisal, which came to $25K for insurance purposes. I used the appraiser Jim Polk in CA and insured with Progressive Insurance [Agreed Value] through the Farm and City Insurance agent in Iowa. I think this would be an optimal path for anyone on this forum who wants agreed value safety for their rig. $250 to Jim Polk and $381/yr for non depreciating, agreed value insurance.
Finally… LOL for vintagebruce's "fork in the ham" crack! As the winter wears on, I'll be customizing and preparing for adventure in the springtime. Next up is curtains: any thoughts or suggestions on color? The laminate surfaces are pale green and the upholstery is tans, browns, rust and cream. I'm thinking some shade of red… maybe a rust? Chime in...
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Post by Hamlet on Dec 27, 2015 15:28:51 GMT -8
Rust, cream and tan with some of that green from the laminate to tie it all together. Enjoy doing the personalization.
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