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Post by mountainsounds on Nov 15, 2015 18:26:25 GMT -8
I've scanned pictures and other threads but can't seem to find details on installing a Princess stove. This is the type with the tall back and the chrome top, cir 1957. When we bought our trailer, the PO had already removed it so we don't know how it was originally installed. Does the stove need a shelf to sit on or is the stove base sufficient without a shelf? Also, how far from the back wall should it sit? In our trailer, if the knob face is flush with the cabinets, there's quite a gap between the back of the stove and the wall. When it's it this position, we can line up some of the original holes in the cabinet and stove but it looks weird to me sitting that far out from the wall.
Should we split the difference and line the door up with the cabinets leaving less of a space in the back? Maybe the gap's a good thing in the back for heat dissipation?
We have the original asbestos shield, where did it go? Inside the stove, under the stove?
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Post by vikx on Nov 16, 2015 0:51:49 GMT -8
A princess is set back off the wall, about 3". Mine have always been supported by a framework under the stove. It is wood and I've seen scorching. The stove is counter top level, so the support is about 12 to 14 inches high.
Some Princess stoves sit on a table type of support with a metal sheet on top. I'm guessing the asbestos goes under that shield. I've seen that before.
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Post by RinTin on Nov 16, 2015 7:01:18 GMT -8
What vikx says.
Fabricate a strip of countertop to fill the gap behind the oven. This can be loose, sitting on top of a ledger so it can be lifted to access the inevitable item that falls down behind the oven without having to remove it.
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Post by mountainsounds on Nov 16, 2015 9:04:10 GMT -8
Thanks Vikx and RinTin. I'll measure the gap, it was probably close to three inches away from the back wall. Imaging all the stuff falling back there, we were thinking about making a filler strip. Yes, the stove sits on a cabinet base that Tuneafish rebuilt. The original wasn't torched, but bent up a bit and the cabinet door/base did not fit together properly. The stove top sits ~level (a little proud) with the cabinets sitting on the base by itself, no underlayment. A thin piece of metal holding the heat shield would keep it that way. I have some extra stove insultation, I could put that under the stove, on top of the heat shield?
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Post by vikx on Nov 16, 2015 21:36:39 GMT -8
No, the insulation will limit the combustion air. There are breather holes in the bottom of the stove. So it must sit about 3/4" higher than any flat surface. Princess' tend to be a bit better than the older stoves. If you use the asbestos under the metal, that will be enough. Sundance had asbestos sheets on all sides as well. I think they were added by the PO.
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Post by mountainsounds on Nov 17, 2015 9:37:03 GMT -8
Thx again Vikx, makes sense.
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Post by Ten on Nov 17, 2015 13:36:30 GMT -8
There seems to be a stark lack of photos in this thread. Don't worry, I am here to clutter things up! I took a couple shots today of the stove set in place in my '64. This is a Shasta, but I have found that most of the manufacturers did a lot of things the same way. It is also a Holiday stove, not a Princess, so that ought to help muddy things as well... So, it sits up on top of a shelf, above a cupboard. Notice the shelf is not solid. I also do not believe there was any type of shield or asbestos beneath the range, it sat directly on what you see. In the foreground portion of the shelf, that is formica. I think it was anchored with screws into the shelf, and also through the panel to the right side. I am not remembering if there was a spacer or not, but the footprint still shows on the formica. (Note: In the Holiday stove, the bottom floor of the oven lifts out, giving access to the anchor screws underneath.) This is the space on the other side, with it sitting close to the footprints. This is behind the stove. Notice there are braces for a shelf on either end of the "space" in question, the 3-inch gap out from the wall. I can't find the shelf now which appears to have been nothing more than a one-inch board that sat on the braces. I am not sure if this was original or a PO add-on. The real key to the whole question is this: The oven vents out the back, and the vent from most of the stove hoods was directly above the stove, and most had no power fans. Heat from the oven would naturally be removed by convection, and the more air flow the better. Without the open air flow, the heat would just build up inside the trailer. So there is my take, and some photos on this thread.
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Post by mountainsounds on Nov 17, 2015 14:01:47 GMT -8
Ahhh, photos. I feel better.
I'll take/post photos of our install, to occur this weekend, at least that's the plan.
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Post by mountainsounds on Nov 23, 2015 13:28:24 GMT -8
Stove is attached on the sides to the cabinets: We placed the stove on a cabinet base and attached the stove to the base with straps: The gap between the stove and the back wall is about two inches: We wrapped the asbestos sheet in aluminum foil and placed it inside the stove, below the burner: As installed the stove-top is nearly flush with the counter and the face plate for the knobs is flush with the cabinets:
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Post by Ten on Nov 23, 2015 15:44:56 GMT -8
Nice job.
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Post by vikx on Nov 23, 2015 23:04:12 GMT -8
I agree, good job. Love the green!
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Post by mountainsounds on Nov 26, 2015 0:29:52 GMT -8
Me too, love the green. I haven't seen too many green stoves. I'm also a fan of the original Formica and vinyl.
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Post by windborn on Nov 26, 2015 7:04:28 GMT -8
I love that green too! It's exactly what I was hoping to paint my appliances, though I don't have my hopes up that I'll be able to find that shade of spray paint.
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