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Post by mel on Sept 14, 2015 4:40:08 GMT -8
I'm sure that this has been discussed on here before, but I can't seem to find a thread. Please post whether you have a ice box or mini fridge and your pros and cons about it How long does your ice box stay cold? do you make your own Ice block? With a mini fridge how do you keep things cold during transport? every camp with no electric?? Thanks
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Post by nccamper on Sept 14, 2015 8:06:06 GMT -8
The old ice boxes work fine but not as well as our new Coleman cooler.
The downside of the ice box is you need ice even on the grid. A hassle.
We have a mini fridge in our Forester. Great on the grid and doubles as a cooler with ice. The downside, when it defrosts it drips. You need to have some way of sopping up the water so it doesn't ruin the floor between campgrounds. And you need to cut a vent in the camper. Sort of ugly, IMHO.
Gas/electric fridge does seem best but is a gas appliance running all night safe in a 12' box? And are they reliable? I've read mixed reviews.
If you use ice it's best to have the block. It lasts twice as long but it may not fit in the ice box. And keep ice in a plastic bin for melt off, obviously.
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Post by chelsy on Sept 14, 2015 8:11:19 GMT -8
Our old old trailer had an ice box... Pros- no need for electricity/propane , makes for really cold beer when stacked on blocks and you can chisel the ice for mixers-which is like gold on a hot day, excess water flushes fridge clean, awesomeness points for sporting old timer ways. Con- makes for soggy bread/tortillas, our melted water was drained directly outside trailer where box was-left trailer exterior water/dirt stained-probably not allowed at established campground, don't forget to close the door lol. Our new old trailer has a small propane fridge.. Pros-makin them ice cubes all day long, can stack on bottom shelf -no soggy breads, and always cold beer. Cons- trailer has to be really level for it to work properly, no drain if i wanted to use ice block, can't keep things cold traveling.
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Post by vintagebruce on Sept 14, 2015 8:12:39 GMT -8
Here is one thread regarding mini fridges. vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/561/refrigeratorSeems like the discussions on ice boxes focuses on ways to maintain the integrity of the cooling ice the longest. Block ice vs. bagged ice vs. home made ice in gallon jugs...even dry ice use. Also, many people that switch to the mini-fridge indicate that they will be camping mainly in campgrounds with hook-ups. Those that boondock with minis say they either use a very small generator or simply use a cooler when boondocking. The big thing in my opinion, if replacing the ice box with a mini fridge will be proper ventilation for the heat produced. I have mentioned before I bought a 120v/12v Coleman ice chest that can be used standing up or laying down cooled also by plugging it in to a cigarette lighter socket or wall outlet. I have tested it, and did not think it performed up to expectations. A very disappointing result...little cooling unit iced up quickly, suggested drop in temp from ambient air never achieved, only good thing is that it works well as an ice chest too, with a useless electrical thingy attached to it. Obviously you know, if you remove an existing ice box, save and store it, so when you decide to sell, you can mention you have "the original icebox". Finally, I would imagine most people keep their stuff cold in a cooler while going to the camp ground. Even if I had the best electric/lp fridge, I'd still want a cooler for keeping stuff cold at the campsite that you don't want to be traipsing inside and out to fetch, like a cold brewski or twoski or sodas. You can also keep your fish cool if you plan on staying at the lake for the weekend.
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Post by Hamlet on Sept 14, 2015 11:24:36 GMT -8
Hamlet has an icebox. We usually make two blocks of ice from those square plastic buckets that the little packets of dishwasher detergent come in (we scored a couple from a friend who was discarding them). We also freeze any raw meat, often a quart of milk, and anything else that's freezable. We don't keep the ice blocks in the container as we've found that they melt faster that way. OK if you're near a source of block ice, but not so good when you;re going to be in someplace remote for four days. In spring and autumn, the icebox stays cold for 3+ days... if we plan exactly what we are going to get and do it quickly. In summer, we buy one block of ice every day after the first day. We do need to pull it and add more insulation. I know that'll help it stay cool longer.
We decided not to replace it with a mini fridge because we didn't want to be beholden to electricity or a large gas tank. We also didn't want to get into the habit of carrying a carload of stuff along. Simple works best for us simple folks.
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Post by gary350 on Oct 13, 2015 5:14:12 GMT -8
When I go camping I don't want to be driving to town every day to buy ice. I only had 1 trailer that had an ice box it was insulated with cork, it needed ice every day. The Coleman ice chest needed ice every 2 days. A cheap Styrofoam ice chest needed ice every 3 days. I bought a good size plastic tub to hold ice then I built a plywood ice box around the tub and insulated it with 2" thick Styrofoam board from Lowe's, it holds ice 5 days. My last 2 vintage restorations both campers had no refrigerator. I bought a new light weight refrigerator from Walmart for both campers all the State Parks and Private camp grounds have electricity these days. I still use my home made ice chest at National Parks, I keep it in the back of the SUV and in the garage when it is not being used. The plastic tub holds all the water from the melted ice, dump the water to replace the ice.
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Post by carvelloafer on Oct 13, 2015 20:18:40 GMT -8
Our Lil Loafer has an ice box. We tried using it but it was too messy and warm and small. It now holds the bread and potatoes and maybe a couple bottles of wine, no ice.
We now use two coolers, one is a Coleman Extreme. I made cozy wraps for both of them out of foil bubble wrap insulation. I make ice blocks in the same dishwasher detergent containers mentioned earlier. Two blocks in each cooler. One cooler for food and the other for beverages. We can dry camp four days and the ice is barely half gone.
All that said, I would rather have a propane fridge with freezer. The Lil Loafer just doesn't have space though.
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Post by swirlygirls on Oct 14, 2015 14:16:53 GMT -8
My Oasis has an icebox. It came out and got new insulation around it and then an outside layer of thin aluminum. It also has a small drain that goes directly outside. I just took it on it's initial outing and the fridge worked wonderfully well. I only had a bag of ice at first but after the second day was able to get a block and that lasted much longer. Like Hamlet, I like simple.
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Post by CorvettCrzy on Jan 7, 2017 5:15:23 GMT -8
Does anyone have any experience with this uniqueoffgrid.com/product/ugp/ ? I'm wondering if I could get it cheaper in Canada, just a quick trip over the border, but I can't find a retailer website on line from Canada. The cheapest I found is a retailer in CA for $659. It's actually very close in size to my current ice box. Anyone with ideas on attaching my original ice box front? I know I could make the ice box into a cupboard but it is already fairly deep.
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Post by mkzero on Jan 29, 2017 17:45:56 GMT -8
How cold do you guys' vintage ice boxes actually stay?
Mine is a combo 110v fridge/ice box (Marvel), so what I did to test it was run it on power over night to cool it off (to 40 deg), then I unplugged it and put in a 12x7x3.5 ice block I had made over night. 2 hours after unplugging it and putting in the ice block it's up 10 deg, to 50 degrees. I think you are supposed to keep food at 40 or below to be considered safly refridgerated. I'll continue to monitor it to see what the temperature does and how long the ice lasts...
What kind of temps do you guys maintain in your vintage ice boxes? What size are your ice blocks?
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Post by msgoehring on Jan 29, 2017 18:44:50 GMT -8
mk, a lot of how cold an icebox stays is dependent on the insulation and how often it's opened up. I don't know how old your marvel is, but it's a pretty good guess that the insulation has suffered in the years since it was made. If it were mine the first thing I'd do was open it up and replace the insulation. Also if there's room, insulating the cabinet space it occupies will help to, you just have to make sure you don't cover the ventilation which I'm not sure where it is, probably on the back, so just do the sides and top.
Then you want to limit how many times it's opened and how long it stays open. That's all the information I have, someone that's actually used one recently will probably have more helpful information. I haven't used an icebox for over 20 years and never a fridge in a trailer.
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Post by mkzero on Jan 29, 2017 18:58:29 GMT -8
Thanks for your reply. I was opening it about once an hour, just long enough to read the thermometer.
I'm assuming the fridge/ice box is a '53, like the trailer. I would be pretty surprised if the insulation wasn't toast. The seal on the door isn't great either, so that's probably not helping. There's definitely room in there for a larger block of ice too, I just made one in the container I found that would fit.
I guess at some point I'll be yanking it out and re-insulating it, and replacing the door seal. I'll have to start hunting for a bigger container to make ice blocks too, maximise the use of the ice block shelf.
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Post by nccamper on Jan 29, 2017 20:20:18 GMT -8
We usually have the mini fridge for on the grid and a Coleman cooler for off the grid. Traditional coolers that open at the top don't pour cold air out the bottom like a fridge with the door open. Yeti makes a great cooler. Crazy expensive. "YETI coolers are compatible with dry ice; dry ice provides about 3 times the cooling power of regular ice"
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