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Post by RinTin on Apr 2, 2015 13:32:13 GMT -8
My 65 Aloha has new steel wheels and tires. I plan to paint the wheels to match one of the body colors and am trying find a good reason to remove the tires in order to paint the wheels. Not I sure I like the idea of giving the tire shop an opportunity to mess up the new paint. How do you do it, and why? Obligatory Pic:
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Post by John Palmer on Apr 2, 2015 18:07:27 GMT -8
Powder coat the wheels, and tell the tire shop to put the weights ALL ON THE INSIDE of the wheel. Tire shops now all have a "touchless" Coates mounting machine, because of all the clear coated mag wheels. It's not a big deal unless you paint the wheels and do not use a proper hardener in the paint.
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Post by vikx on Apr 2, 2015 21:07:24 GMT -8
I mask and paint mine, depending on the circumstances. Sometimes, we need to get the tires mounted before the final paint is done, so masking is necessary. John is right, if you can find a good tire shop.
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 2, 2015 21:29:32 GMT -8
One of our members (Yas, I think ?) posted a pic where he put playing cards under the edge of the rim.
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Post by yas on Apr 3, 2015 4:51:29 GMT -8
That was me. Playing cards worked well to mask off the tire. Push the bead down, slip a card in, repeat. Then tape paper to the cards.
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Post by RinTin on Apr 3, 2015 5:44:40 GMT -8
Thanks for the responses, much appreciated. Powdercoating would be best, but I have the paint and am setting up for a small run, want to include the wheels. Also, I don't believe you can color match with powdercoat. I had the paint custom mixed to match the original body accent color and I doubt there's is a stock pc color that matches. It's a light metallic, green/gold color.
I'll call Discount Tire where I purchased them and ask about the mounting. The weights are on the inside so it appears likely they can do this without marring the new paint. I thought that the modern tire machines could do this but wasn't sure. Been out of the game for awhile. Thanks for the info John.
Also looking to find raw or primed baby moon hubcaps, or something like them, to be painted main body color.
Good to know I have options.
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Post by John Palmer on Apr 3, 2015 9:11:47 GMT -8
Thanks for the responses, much appreciated. Powdercoating would be best, but I have the paint and am setting up for a small run, want to include the wheels. Also, I don't believe you can color match with powdercoat. I had the paint custom mixed to match the original body accent color and I doubt there's is a stock pc color that matches. It's a light metallic, green/gold color. I'll call Discount Tire where I purchased them and ask about the mounting. The weights are on the inside so it appears likely they can do this without marring the new paint. I thought that the modern tire machines could do this but wasn't sure. Been out of the game for awhile. Thanks for the info John. Also looking to find raw or primed baby moon hubcaps, or something like them, to be painted main body color. Good to know I have options. Powder Coat is done in standard RAL numbers. It's an industry paint color code system. Just have your powder coating done in your selected color, then take the RAL number to the paint store and they will mix your paint to your RAL color code. It can also be done in the other direction, but because your not doing a large powder coat run, it would be much more expensive. My green on my Mallard is #6013 (both powder coat, and single stage paint), and the new trim color for the Spartan, will be called New Cat Yellow, a industry standard color, to match our canopy.
In my experience, dealing with any large franchised tire store chain, is a total PITA! I'd find a small local independent tire dealer, and have them do all your tire work. The main thing is the relationship you develop with the guy behind the counter. I cringe, every time I hear that someone took their trailer to the tire store, and then were told they could not work on it because of liability, which is total BS, it's "chain store" rules. The clip-on wheel weights should be removed before the tire is removed.
All you need to do is take a length of scrap RV skin. Cut it to 3" wide, and place the edge in the groove around the wheel rim, against the tire. Adjust the length so it fits tight around the wheel. Then run a small sheet metal screw through the joint to hold the tight fit. Spray away, and it just lifts off.
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Post by RinTin on Apr 3, 2015 20:23:22 GMT -8
Wasn't aware that powdercoat was RAL, good to know. I have a roll of aluminum flashing I'll try masking the wheel with. Thanks for the tip.
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Post by mobiltec on Apr 29, 2015 15:55:32 GMT -8
What does RAL stand for?
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Post by RinTin on Apr 29, 2015 17:45:59 GMT -8
Here's the wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAL_colour_standardIn a nutshell, RAL is an acronym for a German color standard that the auto industry adopted. BTW, my wheels are now painted. I'll update this thread when I catch up on my build thread.
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Post by RinTin on May 18, 2015 13:30:13 GMT -8
I ended up taking the tires off. I had forgotten that my independent mechanic who I have been going to for almost 30 years had recently began selling tires. Cost me $35 to have the tires dismounted and re-mounted, balanced, new valve stems and have my wheel bearings pneumatically pressed with grease. Paint is a single stage automotive urethane. Primed: Painted:
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Post by azshastanut on May 18, 2015 18:33:38 GMT -8
What is the going rate in your area for powder coating wheels. Eight years ago it was $30 per wheel and now it is up to $50 here in Tucson.
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Post by John Palmer on May 18, 2015 19:35:17 GMT -8
What is the going rate in your area for powder coating wheels. Eight years ago it was $30 per wheel and now it is up to $50 here in Tucson. It's $40 to $50 per wheel in So. Cal.
The price depends on how nasty and rusted the old rims are, because of the labor time required to sand blast clean. What ever the price, it's worth it! The time spent, and the cost of paint, primer, and prep materials as very costly today. It's nice to drop them off, and in two days pick them up "all pretty".
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Post by RinTin on May 18, 2015 20:15:42 GMT -8
Prices are a little higher in my area. If I wasn't doing these with my frame and other parts I'd have powder coated also.
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Post by swirlygirls on May 19, 2015 5:30:26 GMT -8
I live in Oregon and just had my wheels powder coated. Many things are pricey here so I was pleasantly surprised to find that they only cost me $25 a wheel. Well worth the price, boy howdy.
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