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Post by Teachndad on Oct 18, 2014 10:07:05 GMT -8
Hi, This is from a 1957 Westerner. The linoleum in the main area is water damaged and curling into flakes. The damage is not under the cabinets, bunk, or dinette cushion bases. I do have some end curl under the cabinets, and while underneath removing some very old temporary lights today, I noticed some floor damage at the very corner at the very rear. Other than that, the damage is where you see it. I want to remove the linoleum unless there is an easier way to cover it, but I don't think there is, unless I use laminate flooring, but knowing very little about installation of that type of flooring, I don't know if that's a viable solution. I know about Larry's wet newspaper trick, so I guess I will start there to remove the linoleum and underlayment. It's so badly cracked, I kind of think the moisture from the wet newspaper might be able to be absorbed into the underlayment. The entire floor does not seem to have any soft spots. I stomped around in the trailer when I went to look at it. Any other suggestions, comments? I have images below.    Cheers Rod |
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Post by nccamper on Oct 18, 2014 13:52:09 GMT -8
We had a recent conversation on tiles and many people brought up that you needs to wear a respiratory and cover up in case there is any asbestos in the tile or glue.
From the look of it, you need to scrape it off then try the wet newspaper trick on the black glue. Are you doing it to check the floor for rot?
as it was suggested on the other thread, many people scrape it, smooth it somewhat, then put down an underpayment if the surface is too rough. But before you would go that far you would do heavy (messy) repairs. On the two campers I've worked on, it was a dirty ordeal before flooring was considered.
By the way, I love the rounded cabinets in your camper.
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 26, 2014 19:43:47 GMT -8
I belt sand the floor and then paint it with KILZ paint sealer. If I can get it I use oil based. Just before puting the glue on I clean the floor really well and then on goes the glue. I don't do that until after everything else in the camper is finished. The tile floor is last to go in.
I usually pull the dinette seats and re-finish those as needed outside the camper. I put the tile down before I re-install the seat boxes. They are completely finished when installed over the new floor. I do the same thing with the bed and most of the time I even remove the main kitchen cabinet but if there is no need just re-finish it in the camper and then cut the tiles around it. I show you how to do that in the videos also.
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Post by Teachndad on Oct 26, 2014 20:44:56 GMT -8
I belt sand the floor and then paint it with KILZ paint sealer. If I can get it I use oil based. Just before puting the glue on I clean the floor really well and then on goes the glue. I don't do that until after everything else in the camper is finished. The tile floor is last to go in. I usually pull the dinette seats and re-finish those as needed outside the camper. I put the tile down before I re-install the seat boxes. They are completely finished when installed over the new floor. I do the same thing with the bed and most of the time I even remove the main kitchen cabinet but if there is no need just re-finish it in the camper and then cut the tiles around it. I show you how to do that in the videos also. Thanks Larry, Your awesome! My concern with sanding is sending up the asbestos, that I assume would be in the mastic. Otherwise, your description is a perfect templet. The thread that nccamper mentions, I have yet to read(there are only about a dozen threads anyway, so it won't be hard to find, but i did read one other one that discussed the possiblity of asbestos in the floor linoleum of the time. This doesn't need to be a thread about the possible hazards of sanding linoleum with asbestos in it. That's covered in another thread. cheers Rod |
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 27, 2014 6:57:22 GMT -8
Yep... Respirator...
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Post by vintagebruce on Oct 29, 2014 16:24:25 GMT -8
If you are sanding mastic or possibly minute bits of floor tile that contains asbestos, you have just raised the DANGER bar considerably. The resulting dust may be blocked from entering your lungs with the proper respirator, but the dust on your skin, clothes, hair as well as all the surfaces in the camper will contain friable sized asbestos particles. I would never sand or grind without using something like this. www.dustmuzzle.com/dust_collector/dustless_sander.php?gclid=CJHGrOuG08ECFSVo7AodjXMAwQPersonally I'd never use a sander/grinder on mastic containing asbestos. If I had to, I'd lift the box and replace the whole floor if I couldn't "level and entomb". But these are simply personal thoughts, not professional advice. |
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 29, 2014 16:47:44 GMT -8
Wish you would have warned me about this 40 years ago LOL... I always thought my beautiful skin was from sucking up all that drywall dust, saw dust, linoleum dust, paint dust and asbestos that I've been eating, drinking, breathing and collecting on my skin at work all these years. And most likely, the thing that will finally kill me will be my liver. You have no idea how much beer it takes to build a house.
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