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Post by soup on Oct 6, 2014 3:31:13 GMT -8
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Post by John Palmer on Oct 6, 2014 9:44:46 GMT -8
This is a much more difficult topic than first meets the eye.
IMO, it's all about being a time trade off for your convenience, or total safety for the stored vehicle. If they don't steal the entire trailer, any 12 year old kid can get into a vintage trailer in "two minutes" with nothing more than a screwdriver. So you need to identify what exactly are you trying to lock and protect?
The best place to store a trailer is in "a locked", and "a secure, out of sight" fenced area. Could be a backyard, or a carport, garage, etc.
The most common thief deterrent for motorcycles was disc locks on the disc brake caliper, they worked great, and were very effective. "If you were lucky", you only bent ONE $200 brake disc, and did not ALSO drop the motorcycle, when you forgot to remove the lock before you rode away. This happened every week in our shop. You have the same problem with additional locks and cables around your axle and wheels on a trailer.
If you go to a electronic locater system, make sure it is satellite/GPS based, not FM signal.
I think everyone should do what ever works best for them, just understand that any amateur thief can steal your trailer in TWO MINUTES maximum with any kind of lock you use. All they do is slow down the "almost honest" people.
There's not an easy solution.
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Post by soup on Oct 6, 2014 11:12:43 GMT -8
I'm also thinking about when you set camp at the campground and leave it for day trips. Somebody trying to bust apart your tongue lock at a camp ground will draw lots of attention. Better than nothing at all!
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Post by John Palmer on Oct 6, 2014 14:17:22 GMT -8
Yup! I would agree, at least you can tell your insurance adjuster, "that it was even locked". It might even make a difference on "if they pay you off".
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Post by schweetcruisers on Oct 6, 2014 15:07:24 GMT -8
Just an FYI those first two pictures do not work on the original hitches Shasta used.
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Post by soup on Oct 19, 2014 23:31:49 GMT -8
Good Catch! I have almost got to a point of ordering one for mine. Sorry, Back to the drawing board.......
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Post by superdave on Oct 20, 2014 8:03:58 GMT -8
I purchased this from Sportsman's Warehouse..... it has a optional cable add-on that will run through your propane tanks and in my case also my spare tire!
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Post by yas on Oct 20, 2014 8:07:43 GMT -8
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Post by chametzoo on Oct 20, 2014 8:14:22 GMT -8
FYI: This issue was discussed in a recent thread on this forum: vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/2341/protect-trailerIt always seems to open up a broad range of topics, from locks to 'agreed value' insurance to GPS to firearms! I think everyone finds their own comfort level… but many point out wisely, that 'agreed value' insurance should be the safety net at the bottom of your plan regardless. Wouldn't it at least be nice if you could get ALL of your money back in the end? If you can put GPS tracking on your trailer, that's fantastic; that can probably go a long way to helping police locate your trailer. As a first defense, I would research and use TWO types of locks on your trailer: one on the hitch and one on the wheels. Regardless of how hard/easy they are to defeat… two is better than one for slowing theft progress. I've looked into some not so common types of locks if you want to PM me. A reenforced secondary door lock or barrier wouldn't hurt either if you're concerned about theft inside the trailer. The doors are so darn easy to break open, this is probably the first place a casual thief looking for odd merchandise, food, change, etc… would probably go for. Also… a good thread here on camping in back country areas: vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/3189/camping-lands-remote-spots-security?page=2&scrollTo=31359And… for the LOL department, this video, sponsored by the "Mega-Hitch" hitch lock, demonstrates clearly how all of these common hitch locks can be defeated in a minute or two, with simple tools from the trunk of your car. Also, the advent of battery powered Sawzalls expands the thief's capabilities. (Never mind that the Mega-Hitch would be no harder to defeat than the others, IMO!) www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_zz80h_Tc. So, I still say, 2 independent forms of locks, plus "agreed value" insurance… and GPS if you can swing it.
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Post by soup on Oct 20, 2014 12:59:10 GMT -8
Awesome! Cable looks long enough to even run through a couple of closely parked bicycles and a dog cable too!!
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Post by John Palmer on Oct 20, 2014 21:09:52 GMT -8
I'd replace the hardware store U-Bolts that are holding your safety chains on with some good quality Grade 8 bolts with hardened "thick" Grade 8 washers, and nuts. You can normally get 7/16" bolts through the safety chain links, but check and use the largest possible for your chains. Any good industrial hardware store stocks a wide assortment of Grade 8. ACE has some, but they are expensive, and the selection is small.
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Post by soup on Oct 21, 2014 4:13:20 GMT -8
Many different styles to choose from, some may work with you particular hitch style and some may not. I think I like the one that is just a ball that goes in and the ball is the locking mechanism. I also recommend getting a lock that goes through the small hole behind the latch to keep the hitch attached to the ball while towing. I like the ones in pics 5 and 6. I also like the last one too since you would only need the one lock for both functions of locking while towing or locking while unhitched. Lets all take a closer look at a vast amount of pics to see how they are made, link here;
www.bing.com/images/search?q=hitch+locks&FORM=HDRSC2
This one below, you would just need the one lock set. Use the orange box and lock when not hooked to tow or just use the lock alone through the small hole behind your hitch latch when hooked up to tow to keep the latch from coming loose on bumps while towing!
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Post by lance on Oct 22, 2014 15:38:16 GMT -8
Here is the lock that the PO gave me when I got my Compact. Hitch is a little beat up but the lock fits!
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Post by augsburg on Nov 14, 2014 14:53:50 GMT -8
I'm curious if anyone has actual experience with any of the coupler locks that have been shown in this thread. I realize any lock can be defeated and our trailer will be behind a locked cyclone fence, so slowing down a thief would be my objective. I notice on Amazon virtually all of the coupler locks have reviews indicating there are multiple problems. Some slip off the coupler, others have poor quality, offshore made, key mechanisms that fail quickly. Has anyone found a particular brand or device that actually works - and the key mechanism does not jam after a few months out in the weather?
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Post by bigbill on Nov 15, 2014 7:06:41 GMT -8
I have a master lock that has been out in the weather most of the time since the early 70s and it still works like new I spray it spring and fall with WD40. It is made from hardened steel and you can't cut it with a saw.
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