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Post by coloradoan on Jun 29, 2014 20:28:23 GMT -8
I'm installing a new (seamless) roof on my 59 Shasta Airflyte. I read somewhere on here a debate about painting a new roof vs. leaving it bare aluminum. I can't find that thread and so I'm hoping to get insights into the pros and cons of each. The original roof was painted.
Same with painting the Jrails. Mine were originally painted, but I like the idea of being able to reseal the seams without disturbing the paint job. Any thoughts?
Thanks!!
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Post by vikx on Jun 29, 2014 22:03:38 GMT -8
I like painting the roof white. It's not necessary, but you usually paint the front and rear top half anyway. I bought white roofs for both the Cardinal and the Little Dipper. (seamed)
The J rail looks better mill color in my opinion. It really lets the body shape show and accents the paint. That being said, both of the 57 Shastas did have painted rails. Not now.
Do what makes you happy.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Jun 30, 2014 5:05:03 GMT -8
Raw aluminum oxides, so it will get really dull looking fast, unless you like to polish. The other issue with leaving the roof raw, is rain, as rain or any water drains off the rook it can/will leave black streaks on the paint.
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Post by pathfinder3081 on Jun 30, 2014 5:29:19 GMT -8
I say paint your roof. And in regards to rails? I see where a lot of the older camper had painted Jrails and edges from the factory but.. If the trim rail is off. I say go ahead and scratch'em to mill. The Jrails are one of the easy parts of her trim to do this. And yes while, it will grow to a duller finish after exposure and oxidation. So will a few other parts of your restored finishes as well. Some "brand new" spray booth paint jobs, over the rails onto the skin look a little "Lipsticky" to me. Of course some of my approaches may seem lipsticky to others.. I was a rattle can man..
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Post by John Palmer on Jun 30, 2014 15:33:54 GMT -8
I have yet to see an old trailer that had "painted trim", done as original from the factory. I'm sure somebody will correct me, but it was just "mill finish" on the trims from the factory in most cases. Newer RV's have powder coated trims, vintage trailers with painted trims look like someone took a short cut and forgot to tape them off, IMO. I like the description "Lipsticky", LOL.
If you take the extra time to polish the trims before you install them, they will stay very shinny for years, even "stored outside in the weather".
If you buy your skins from Hemet Valley RV, even in the mill finish color, they have a "clear coat" finish that will not oxidize for many years when left outside. The trims that look badly oxidized today on sixty year old trailers, were never polished when they were new.
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Post by coloradoan on Jun 30, 2014 16:31:47 GMT -8
Thanks for all the input, everyone. I've decided to paint the roof and not the Jrails. I'd bet a lot of money that this is the original paint job on my 59 Shasta, and the roof AND the Jrails were both painted. But I, too, like the look of the unpainted trim.
Next dilemma - install dinette windows before or after paint? The rest of the windows will go in after painting, but I can see the case for painting over all those screw heads around the fixed windows so they "disappear" a little better. Thoughts?
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Post by lovnvintage on Jun 30, 2014 16:59:38 GMT -8
I think mine were originally painted as well. The very last coat of paint I stripped was the same as under all the badges, an aqua color.
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 30, 2014 19:57:31 GMT -8
Yep paint it with the screws in which means your window will probably be in also. I left my windows out during paint on my 57 and had all the screws in. It was a little tougher to get a seal when I installed the windows. This time I think I will leave the windows in for the paint and just mask. I'm wondering if I should pull the glass seal also for the paint job??? Then re-install it after paint???
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Post by coloradoan on Jul 1, 2014 9:36:26 GMT -8
Yep paint it with the screws in which means your window will probably be in also. I left my windows out during paint on my 57 and had all the screws in. It was a little tougher to get a seal when I installed the windows. This time I think I will leave the windows in for the paint and just mask. I'm wondering if I should pull the glass seal also for the paint job??? Then re-install it after paint??? I'm a little confused. How would I "leave the windows in for the paint and just mask" but have the glass seal out and re-install after paint? Also, I just looked on Vintage Trailer Suppy's website and am not sure which glass seal to order for the dinette windows. Could you point me in the right direction? The customer service representative I just spoke with had no concept of the windows I was talking about. As I think about it, if I install the window (and the screws) after paint, won't it make it easier to repair/reseal later if needed without screwing up the paint job? Oh, these windows seem to be the bane of the Shasta owner's existence!
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Post by mobiltec on Jul 1, 2014 15:30:14 GMT -8
Well thats what I did with the 57. I just waited to install the glass and the glass seal until after paint. I got a good seal but had to push really hard on the stops to get the lexan to seal against the glass seal afterwards. I'll probably do it that way again. This time I am using the original glass and not lexan. I don't like the lexan. Scratches too easy. Don't use the screws to make the glass tight for a seal because as soon as the trailer moves the glass will crack. Screw your screws in, then push the glass up against the glass seal with the wooden stops and shoot the stops in while holding pressure on the stops against the glass. Start with the bottom first. Then top, then the two sides. It should seal just fine and the glass should stay intact doing it that way. Matt is kinda new down at VTS and doesn't know all the terms yet I guess. It's actually called Glass Seal on the site. Here's the link... HEHR Standard Glass Seal Gasket... Comes in gray and black. I don't like the black but some people do. www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Hehr_Standard_Glass_Seal_p/vts-195.htm
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Post by coloradoan on Jul 1, 2014 20:43:26 GMT -8
Thanks, Larry. I watched your video three times now. That should help! Have a great fishing trip!
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Post by soup on Jul 2, 2014 0:15:44 GMT -8
You can always shoot the rails with a coat of clear to keep from having to polish.
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