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Post by swirlygirls on May 16, 2014 3:59:04 GMT -8
I just watched Mobiltec's videos on window replacement. Great information as usual, thank you Mobiltec. Here's my question. I'm missing a piece of metal glazing. Where can I find one or how do you make one?
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Post by SusieQ on May 16, 2014 8:03:50 GMT -8
Swirlygirl, I've done several searches and just did anther search for them before I read your post. Most glazing strips now are vinyl and can be made to work, check out Pirateslife's thread. I did find some aluminum ones but not the correct size. They would not be hard to fabricate with correct measurements. I'm sure you could find a metal shop to do it for you. If you find any pre-made, let me know, because mine are rather dinged up, partly from hail and partly from me. At least they are still functional.
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Post by John Palmer on May 16, 2014 8:50:17 GMT -8
Swirlygirl, I've done several searches and just did anther search for them before I read your post. Most glazing strips now are vinyl and can be made to work, check out Pirateslife's thread. I did find some aluminum ones but not the correct size. They would not be hard to fabricate with correct measurements. I'm sure you could find a metal shop to do it for you. If you find any pre-made, let me know, because mine are rather dinged up, partly from hail and partly from me. At least they are still functional. SusieQ, I think you will find it "very difficult" to fabricate new replacement aluminum strips with normally available tools.
Which is why we talk about being very careful in removing the strips. It's also why we want to KILL (lol) previous owners that just smeared silicone over the strips instead of correctly removing the glass, and installing a new glass seal.
My suggestion is to collect any old window frames you can, and save the strips. Long strips can be cut down as necessary.
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Post by azshastanut on May 16, 2014 10:49:06 GMT -8
I had four eight foot lengths bent up a couple of weeks ago for Shasta windows. I haven't cut any to the lengths needed for my fixed Shasta windows yet. I did discover that the overall width on Shasta's is wider than the ones Hehr used on Kenskills by about 3/16. I don't know what the cost was because I had enough metal bent up for cargo doors and frames, entry door and jamb, as well as these glazing strips for two trailers.
Incidently, a word of caution, do not cut these using tin snips or hack saw. You will distort the thin aluminum. I suggest you use a Dremel tool with a metal cutting disc.
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Post by SusieQ on May 16, 2014 13:36:42 GMT -8
John, note that I suggested having a metal shop do it. I didn't suggest trying it with home tools modern or not, although it might be possible. Having been married to a tool and die maker for 15 years, I'm pretty darn sure a metal person could cut the correct width and bend it with the correct angle. That is all mine are. The part that shows after installation is 7/8", not sure the measurement of the piece that is bent at an angle, maybe 1/4" or 3/8".
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Post by pirateslife on May 16, 2014 14:08:55 GMT -8
I need to find an old one, I think I have the stuff to make them at the barn. Metal work isn't too bad if ya been around a bit
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Post by John Palmer on May 16, 2014 15:56:19 GMT -8
John, note that I suggested having a metal shop do it. I didn't suggest trying it with home tools modern or not, although it might be possible. Having been married to a tool and die maker for 15 years, I'm pretty darn sure a metal person could cut the correct width and bend it with the correct angle. That is all mine are. The part that shows after installation is 7/8", not sure the measurement of the piece that is bent at an angle, maybe 1/4" or 3/8". Susie, I have "a well equipped" metal fab shop.
The problem is the strips need "to snap in" and the tolerance must be very close. The strips are not a standard sized part on all windows. It's the very small lip on the outside edge that would be the hard part, not the larger lip that fits against the glass. Remember, they are the only thing that holds the glass in, and must fit snugly. I'm sure somebody can, "and will" reproduce this needed part.
But if you "were a tool and die maker", and "were so inclined", it would be a much better investment of time and money to make a left and right hand die to stamp "high quality" reproduction eyebrows. They have a much larger potential audience.
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Post by vikx on May 16, 2014 20:59:48 GMT -8
My local metal guy made me some window clips. He fabbed the first one but it wouldn't "snap" in place. I had the glass shop set the glass and took the window to him. About a day for him to come up with some that would work.
The critical measurements are the frame width and also the glass thickness. The glass shop wanted to install 1/16 glass but Bill (metal man) and I both thought it was way too thin. I used 1/8 which is mm, so not exact. I'll tell you one thing, I don't want to remove the clips! They are snug.
I would think most metal shops could do the same if they wanted to...
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Post by CorvettCrzy on May 20, 2014 20:24:58 GMT -8
Have you checked with Chris (trailertrasher), so far he's had every part I've needed. Seems he
usually has window parts around?
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Post by John Palmer on May 20, 2014 20:47:38 GMT -8
Have you checked with Chris (trailertrasher), so far he's had every part I've needed. Seems he usually has window parts around? I would agree that it would be much cheaper to buy a few used pieces when needed. Better than spending a day of "trial and error" fitting. You can cut down the longer ones if they have damaged ends. Lots of old Park Model trailers are good sources for these hard to find parts. Also, the glass is available, and replaceable, the spring clips are more valuable. Don't destroy them in the process of removing them from the silicone gunk.
If anyone here was a "previous owner", with a tube of silicone in their caulk gun, fixing their window leaks, you will not want me on your Jury!
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 3, 2014 15:39:18 GMT -8
Give Chris (trailertrasher) a call. He probably has a lot of those windows. Might have to buy the window to get the strips though. Who knows?
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