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Post by mandoman on Apr 19, 2014 9:42:31 GMT -8
Hi everyone... I have a 1969 Aristocrat Lo-liner that is in a good, useable shape, but I'm looking to rehab as much as time and my wallet will allow. Part of this is dealing with D-con (yes..that D-con) that was used in the wheel wells when it sat in a field that degraded and leached into the flooring, and doing something with the existing paneling to make it look better. Looking for opinions on how to tackle the following:
1) The folks who owned it before me started a hit-and-miss rehab on the trailer. I guess some of the faux contact paper wood grain on the paneling was bubbling or coming off so they used a heat gun to remove about 30% of it and started staining the raw paneling a REALLY dark mahogany color. I'm left with a trailer that is 1/3 original paneling with faux wood contact paper in fairly good shape, 1/3 stripped paneling with raw wood, and 1/3 stripped paneling with a stain that is way too dark for my taste. Most of the paneling is in good shape with the exception of a few spots that I need to inject and glue to stabilize. The motif right now is brown on brown and I think this trailer needs some color. How would you handle it? Continue peeling to raw wood and polycoat/paint, paint existing raw wood and contact paper, rip off the paneling and start new?
2) D-con was used all over the trailer. Mostly loose, block bait (not in cardboard) that degraded over time and leached in to the linoleum mostly in the closet and under the galley. It was probably in there for decades, but I can't get a good answer online about how toxic it still is. I've removed the bait. The linoleum needs to be replaced anyway, and I'm sure the D-con leached around the edges of the flooring and into the subfloor. How much and to what extent...I don't know. How would you handle this? Seal it in with Kilz and new floor or remove the floor and start from scratch?
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 19, 2014 10:02:16 GMT -8
The rat poison would be of major concern to me. It depends on how long it has been there. D-Con pellets that are used now are the safer of modern poisons and non toxic unless ingested. They are made with warfarin, also known as the brand name drug coumadin, which is a blood thinner used for heart patients. Back during the era of these trailers, arsenic was used as rat poison. You probably could contact your local EPA and get some answers from them. They probably would even test it for you.
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Post by mandoman on Apr 19, 2014 15:24:03 GMT -8
Thanks Susie. I actually contacted the manufacturer of D-con and got essentially nothing from them. The liability of these old products is something they want to stay away from. Good idea to hunt some information down through my state EPA. In hindsight the previous owners really downplayed how much bait was actually in the trailer. Even though he said he had it cleaned up I found at least 3 more loose blocks and a carton of pellets. Several folks have recommended tearing up the linoleum, sealing with several coats of Kilz oil base, and laying a tight new floor. I'm without dogs right now, but plan on more sometime in the future...that's my biggest worry. Thanks for your thoughts. |
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Post by pirateslife on Apr 19, 2014 16:31:52 GMT -8
Don't know if I would us EPA, that tend to go overboard with stuff.....they may quarantine your trailer and call it a hazmat site. Lol
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 19, 2014 19:15:21 GMT -8
Could you read the ingredients on the carton of pellets?
My trailer was obviously sprinkled with Seven Dust at the doorway. I could see white powder residue and I know that smell because my family used it in the garden when I was a kid. Fortunately, that was the only place that I saw or smelled any and I replaced the rotted boards and cleaned the threshold so it is gone!
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Post by CorvettCrzy on Apr 19, 2014 19:18:21 GMT -8
It sounds like the problem is in the enclosed spaces, ie cupboards. It seems to me that if you do as you mention by taking up the linoleum, Clean, and Kilz with new floor, along with where it's located, it should be a good fix. Just remember, if your flooring is exposed on the underside to make sure to address that as well.
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Post by mandoman on Apr 20, 2014 6:54:32 GMT -8
Hi guys, Thanks for the input. Yesterday I dug a little deeper into how hard it would be to strip the closet, galley, dining area and back bed to expose the entire floor. It wouldn't really be that hard and would allow me to access the entire floor. I actually plan on laying VCT flooring so it would also have a layer of adhesive in addition to a Kilz layer. Corvettecrzy thanks for the input on the underside. I'm hoping it hasn't leached through 1/2 or 3/4 plywood, but I'll check. I'd rather not tear the camper down entirely to lay new subfloor. I've attached a couple of pics...a diamond in the rough or a time/money sink? We'll see. You can see how some of the walls/galley are either stripped, stained or still have some pealing contact paper on the paneling. Using a heat gun to remove the contact paper is a pain. Thoughts...paint, poly, other? Thanks very much for all of your help.
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Post by SusieQ on Apr 20, 2014 6:59:00 GMT -8
Thanks for sharing the interior pics. Nice!
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Post by dwells on Aug 14, 2014 9:37:27 GMT -8
I have that faux wood grain too and have a few panels that have to be replaced because of water damage. In the interest of keeping low cost on my last rebuild we replaced some with lauan and painted. The current project has faux light wood grain like yours from front to back and crappy brown wallboard on the sides. This one is getting paint for sure.
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Post by cheri on Aug 14, 2014 12:31:41 GMT -8
If you decide to paint the paneling, make sure you scuff it up real good and use a good primer. The PO of my trailer painted paneling like this, and it just peels off. I didn't even need a scraper. It came off in long rubbery sheets.
Cheri
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