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Post by griffon89 on Aug 20, 2021 11:18:45 GMT -8
After pulling the skins and roof I noticed that I have a single wire coming from my tow wiring harness up the front and into the ceiling light fixture which is 110V or so I thought? Does this mean it is a dual fixture that will run on 12V or 110V? The light does work on 110 but I removed it and the skins before noticing the 12V wire so not sure if one bulb works on 110 and 1 on 12V? Can someone clarify for me, thanks Attached link to photos or wire and of fixture before it was removed. photos.app.goo.gl/Vap5q3cK33m172bM7
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Post by vikx on Aug 20, 2021 18:49:12 GMT -8
It could be a dual power fixture. If there are two sockets, probably. However, you would need two wires to run a 12 volt bulb, hot and ground. Do you have pictues with the globe off? Are there two switches on the fixture?
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Post by griffon89 on Aug 21, 2021 13:29:57 GMT -8
Thanks Vikx, I added a few more photos of the fixture itself to the above link. It does have 2 switches and 2 separate sets of wires. There was definitely a wire that was not connected so maybe the 12v ground that wasn't properly hooked up? So I would just need to make sure its properly grounded on the 12V side when I hook it back up then?
Hopefully I can get all the rust cleaned up and keep it. It was working before I disconnected everything but didn't notice if it was just one bulb.
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Post by vikx on Aug 21, 2021 20:00:06 GMT -8
I am confused on your light. The sockets are 110 but one "could" have been used with a special 12 volt bulb. Two switches make sense; each turns one bulb on/off. I would make the light totally 110. You can add a 12 volt light under the front cabinet if you add a 12 volt system to your trailer.
The extra wire was probably a parking light wire that operated the light ONLY when the vehicle parking lights were on. Many older trailers had that feature. It's not very handy and for emergencies since the car battery goes dead running it.
You will need a 12 volt system (battery, fuse block, circuit wires to lights, etc) if you want 12 volt lights.
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Post by griffon89 on Aug 22, 2021 21:11:40 GMT -8
The trailer is pretty original except the paint but not much surprises me. PO's could have done who knows what just like my propane lines. The trailer is also Canadian so maybe they were experimenting, lol Interesting about the parking light thing. Ill probably just leave it as 110, sound like the easiest option. We will likely add a 12V system as well since where we are its mostly dry/no power camping. Thanks for the insight Vikx
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Post by vikx on Aug 23, 2021 10:47:44 GMT -8
Now is the time to start wiring for your 12volt system. Add a couple of ceiling lights/wiring while the roof is off. (glue backer pieces of ply at each light location; gives "bite" for the light screws) Interesting to see the roof vent was raised as well. Glendales are well made trailers.
I usually run my 12 volt wires up the front to the front cabinet J box, then run to the doorside cabinet J box. That puts 12 volts in each location when you need it. The kitchen wiring is run up the kitchen wall; this is circuit #2. I usually don't recommend wiring in the walls but the K wall is an exception. The J boxes put the wires where you need them and you can complete the rest later.
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/51398619814/in/dateposted-public/" title="006 h Butch 12 volt (4)"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51398619814_b6773a80dc_w.jpg" width="400" height="300" alt="006 h Butch 12 volt (4)"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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One thing you should do is run wires from the upper K cabinet to the ceiling vent. Multitool a hole in the front left (street side) frame (as you face the trailer) Run your 12 volt wires into that hole, leaving 6" or so to power a Fantastic Fan. The hole is 2.5" back from the front of the vent.
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/51397123062/in/dateposted-public/" title="006 h Ceiling Wiring (6)"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51397123062_6b6e14f6f0_w.jpg" width="400" height="300" alt="006 h Ceiling Wiring (6)"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Metal is protecting the gas line running up the front.
12 volt wiring should be automotive stranded wire, 14ga. available at most auto stores or online.
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Post by griffon89 on Aug 24, 2021 21:02:06 GMT -8
Wow, thanks for the detailed info on the 12V set up. It will definitely help when we get to that stage!! I appreciate your willingness to share all of your knowledge I had wanted to have the skins back on and sealed by September but....we are not even finished removing the skins and assessing the damage/repairs to the frame yet. Between health and weather issues it's been a lot slower than I had planned. I also now know that we are also going to have to replace part of the floor at the front and rear. We did not realize the frame was attached to the floor so had not planned on having to take the frame off to fix it. As a result it's going to be a while before we get to the wiring additions.
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