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Post by theresa on Aug 14, 2020 8:31:08 GMT -8
Does anyone know of a detail exploded view of the large Hehr front window on a Shasta. It's a 1600 series window. It's from a 1960 Shasta. There are stationary panes on either side, and two Jaloulsie panels on the middle portion. I've taken it all apart, meticulously removed all the paint layers, all of the previous owner's attempts at sealing against leaks, removed all the old dry gaskets and seals, painstakingly acid bathed and hand polished all the parts and pieces. I gently and lovingly washed and polished all the panes of glass and had a new one cut to replace a broken stationary pane. But now, some of the pieces don't seem to go back together the way they should. Having a close-up view of how they all fit together would help tremendously. To be exact, all of one side of the entire thing is together as it was; it didn't come apart because some screws wouldn't come out so I left it intact and cleaned it up as best I could. So I have the one side to use as a guide to put the other side back together. But for some reason, it's just not working.
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Post by theresa on Oct 27, 2020 8:42:37 GMT -8
So I've managed to get my window back together with some ever so gently loving nudges here and there. My next question, is the plastic glazing strip available from VTS a good replacement for the thin metal glazing strips? I've watched Larry's video on how to very carefully remove and replace these, but in my haste to remove everything 5 years ago when I started this window, I hadn't seen that. And one of my glazing strips is missing completely. SO, short of trailertrasher having a pristine complete set of the 8 pieces (4 for each pane), has anyone used the plastic replacement for this metal piece? Thoughts? Suggestions? EDIT: Edited to add that upon a closer read of the description and a photo of the item available on VTS, I don't think this is a replacement for mine as my window is a 1600 series and the metal strip I have isn't shaped quite like that. So, any suggestions on where to procure these or has anyone had any success with having them replicated at a metal fabricator shop? |
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Post by vikx on Oct 27, 2020 9:38:20 GMT -8
Please post a photo.
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Post by theresa on Oct 27, 2020 12:16:21 GMT -8
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Post by theresa on Oct 27, 2020 12:16:44 GMT -8
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Post by theresa on Oct 27, 2020 12:17:05 GMT -8
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Post by theresa on Oct 27, 2020 12:17:28 GMT -8
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Post by theresa on Oct 27, 2020 12:21:56 GMT -8
These surround the two stationary panes of the large front window assembly that spans across the front of all older model Shasta Airflyte, and probably other models as well. Mine is a '60. They are very thin aluminum, bend at the slightest touch, and mine have clearly been gooped and tweaked, and I'm missing at least one of the shorter ones, maybe two now. If not for the very very slight bend on the inside edge of all of them, I would imagine these would be easy to replicate. But it's the bend that I believe is supposed to snap into the window mechanism somehow help to hold the window in should the glazing tape let it fall out. At least that's how I understand it. |
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Post by vikx on Oct 27, 2020 18:23:42 GMT -8
Is this a stationary window? doesn't open? You're right that those pieces clip in to help hold the glass. They have some spring to them. There really isn't any glazing in mine; it seems like butyl tape. Stays pretty soft over the years. Glazing putty seems too hard for a trailer.
I would get your frame clean (and seal the welds if necessary) and the glass ready to set. Be sure it fits flush. Ask at a window company what product to use. Set the glass in, then install your clips. Once the windows are almost done, you will see how many pieces are missing and what needs to be replaced.
It's possible that you could use angle aluminum even without the extra bend. I doubt that plastic will work. Trailertrasher also may have some extras. I hope this helps; I haven't done the Shasta window that you describe.
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Post by theresa on Oct 28, 2020 5:36:39 GMT -8
Is this a stationary window? doesn't open? You're right that those pieces clip in to help hold the glass. They have some spring to them. There really isn't any glazing in mine; it seems like butyl tape. Stays pretty soft over the years. Glazing putty seems too hard for a trailer. I would get your frame clean (and seal the welds if necessary) and the glass ready to set. Be sure it fits flush. Ask at a window company what product to use. Set the glass in, then install your clips. Once the windows are almost done, you will see how many pieces are missing and what needs to be replaced. It's possible that you could use angle aluminum even without the extra bend. I doubt that plastic will work. Trailertrasher also may have some extras. I hope this helps; I haven't done the Shasta window that you describe. Correct, stationary windows. They are already in. The entire window assembly has been cleaned, new seals where needed, etc. I did use the black glazing putty. It's just these clips that's missing to finish the job. I'll contact trailertrasher if someone has his email kicking around? I wanted to get replacements because some of mine are bent up just a bit and I don't want it to affect the sealing of the entire window assembly. |
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Post by John Palmer on Oct 28, 2020 15:42:29 GMT -8
I have never seen "new" replacements for the part you are asking about. I have parted out window frames to salvage the just the clips. You can cut down the longer clips to make the shorter ones. Make sure you install them in the correct over lay.
John
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Post by Teachndad on Oct 30, 2020 5:21:14 GMT -8
Teresa,
I might be a little late. You can contact Chris at trailertrasher1@gmail.com
What about taking the matching piece to a fabricator to have a new one made? It can be a pricey option when no other option exists.
Good luck.
Rod
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Post by theresa on Oct 30, 2020 6:44:32 GMT -8
Teresa, I might be a little late. You can contact Chris at trailertrasher1@gmail.com What about taking the matching piece to a fabricator to have a new one made? It can be a pricey option when no other option exists. Good luck. Rod I have had really good luck with my fabricator with other projects so far (wheel wells, all the framing for the door, all the metal for around the door itself), but these I wasn't so sure about because of the very delicate nature of them, and the tiniest bend at the edge. But I'll take a set to them and see how doable it is. BTW, I'm not sure what is considered pricey but I've been very pleased with the costs so far of my local shop. |
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Post by bigblue on Mar 28, 2021 17:08:18 GMT -8
Hi Theresa,
I'm sure you have already found a solution by now, BUT I was taking apart the front window to my Airflyte and wildly enough, there was a 9th piece of that metal glazing trim that you are talking about tucked in the gap between the glass and the end of the window. If I don't end up damaging any of mine putting it back together I'd be more than happy to send it to you!
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