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Post by thelunatic on Jul 7, 2020 14:52:15 GMT -8
Hello! Me and my partner started partial renovations on our 1968 Aristocrat Lo-Liner last month. Now to preface, we want to do a full renovation but we are in the process of moving across the country. So we set out to do the repairs that were necessary to make the trip. There was water damage in the back corners, side floor boards, and the bed/couch wood was also mostly rotted. So we figured we would just replace the framing for the back corners, and the bed. We already messed up by trying to start from the inside, and also maybe trying to do this partially, we know that. But we have little time before we have to move and at this point just need to get the framing and walls done so we can go. We thought we had figured all the measurements out, and the wood fits to the aluminum perfectly, but now suddenly, the ceiling is uneven! Like a full 3 inches off. What do we do?? We are both a little stumped. The left side - where the ceiling framing is flush against the top of the siding framing. 
The Right side - where the ceiling framing is lower, but still 3 inches off! If we raise the ceiling framing to be flush it will be off by 6 inches!!  The Full Back  Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! |
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Post by danrhodes on Jul 7, 2020 15:44:43 GMT -8
From the last picture it seems you removed some interior panels? If so, these panels add much of the strength and suspect removing them caused the walls to shift and settle. I know when I removed our walls, the framing was frighteningly floppy without the panels and overlapping unibody structure.
If it was my camper, I'd rent a flatbed trailer and wrap the heck out of it to move and repair properly when you get settled. Best wishes getting out of Cali.
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Post by datac on Jul 7, 2020 15:54:02 GMT -8
That's probably an artifact of trying to do it from the inside. Until you get to a place where you can redo it properly, I'd cross-brace the heck out of the inside to hold it together, double-check for rotten sills and hanging frame bolts, and hit it with about ten miles of shrink wrap.
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Post by thelunatic on Jul 7, 2020 16:19:03 GMT -8
That's probably an artifact of trying to do it from the inside. Until you get to a place where you can redo it properly, I'd cross-brace the heck out of the inside to hold it together, double-check for rotten sills and hanging frame bolts, and hit it with about ten miles of shrink wrap. Right. Thats what we figured too. But... we don't really have the option of not finishing in some way right now. So looking for solutions if there could be any..... We have about a month. |
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Post by thelunatic on Jul 7, 2020 16:23:09 GMT -8
From the last picture it seems you removed some interior panels? If so, these panels add much of the strength and suspect removing them caused the walls to shift and settle. I know when I removed our walls, the framing was frighteningly floppy without the panels and overlapping unibody structure. If it was my camper, I'd rent a flatbed trailer and wrap the heck out of it to move and repair properly when you get settled. Best wishes getting out of Cali. We did. Big mistake that we are kicking ourselves for everyday lol If we were not under the moving constraint, what would your advice be? To just do a full wall repair/re-do? |
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Post by danrhodes on Jul 7, 2020 17:26:38 GMT -8
From the last picture it seems you removed some interior panels? If so, these panels add much of the strength and suspect removing them caused the walls to shift and settle. I know when I removed our walls, the framing was frighteningly floppy without the panels and overlapping unibody structure. If it was my camper, I'd rent a flatbed trailer and wrap the heck out of it to move and repair properly when you get settled. Best wishes getting out of Cali. We did. Big mistake that we are kicking ourselves for everyday lol If we were not under the moving constraint, what would your advice be? To just do a full wall repair/re-do? Remove the roof and side skins and use the measurements from the good side to fix the bad side. If you haven't removed the side skins, you will likely find your side wall sills are rotten and potentially becoming detached or sagging. |
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Post by vikx on Jul 7, 2020 19:57:34 GMT -8
I think you've lost the kitchen wall. Loliners are known to sag badly on that side. Some of that is due to wall rot and the rest to the wheel well dropping. I had to move my wall up and in 3/4" to get rid of the sag. This trailer is not safe to tow with the wall sag. Here is my 65 Loliner: 65loliner.shutterfly.com/ Click on Pictures and Videos to view the albums. The build album shows the wheel well being lifted and bolted up in place. The cabinets were loosened all down that side and the wall pulled in, then jacked up. Check your wheel well and surrounding floor very closely to see if it has dropped. If you can get that back in place, it will help strengthen things. The wall really should be moved up and in, not sure how you are going to make a trip with it the way it is. I'm more than willing to help. It will only take a day or two to secure the wall and wheel well. You will have to remove the stove, icebox and loosen the sink drain. Support boards can be run along the floor at the wall. They will help support the wall after it is lifted. PM me for my email address and I'll talk you thru it. |
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