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Post by maddan on Mar 22, 2020 6:40:27 GMT -8
Just picked up our trailer yesterday to begin prep for a 5 day escape to the Great Smoky Mountains. Just now received the email from NPS that all reservations through April 30th are canceled. Kinda of expected it, but still disappointed. We will survive. Stay safe friends!
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Post by nccamper on Mar 22, 2020 10:56:35 GMT -8
No kidding, they closed the national parks?
Let's hope they open in May or I'll be camping in the backyard.
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Post by Hamlet on Mar 22, 2020 15:35:28 GMT -8
At a majority of BLM-managed locations, where it is possible to adhere to public health The national parks are NOT closed, but many of the things that we go to see or do in them ARE closed. No shuttles, no visitor centers, etc. I think I heard that there is one park that had closed due to COVID-19, maybe somewhere in the Rockies, but I didn’t read it first hand, so I don’t know for sure. So you can visit, you just can’t stay there. I wonder about BLM land. I’ll have to look that up.
The BLM website says, “At a majority of BLM-managed locations where it is currently possible to adhere to public health guidance, outdoor spaces remain open to the public, while many facilities will be closed.” Also, the good news is that entrance fees have been waived for the time being. This includes National Parks. State parks are managed by each state and have their own regulations.
For those of you with camping plans and closed campgrounds, you might want to look at “Boondockers Welcome.” You have free access to private property for a short stay. The fee to join is very reasonable, and there’s are accommodations all over the US. We haven’t used it for several years, but we had everything from a suburban driveway to a spot out in a field on a ranch in rural Oregon. You have to supply your own water, power and toilet facilities, but it worked great for us and we met some fun folks along the way.
Keep your distance and keep your health. And thanks, mobiltec, for your posts. This is nothing to ignore. The best possible outcome would be to be able to say, in a couple years, “Gee, we overreacted.” That would mean that we DIDN’T!
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Post by nccamper on Mar 22, 2020 15:50:26 GMT -8
"So you can visit, you just can’t stay there."
You can visit but you can't camp there?
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Post by Hamlet on Mar 22, 2020 16:07:41 GMT -8
There may be BLM campsites (mobiltec knows a lot about them) that don’t really have designated sites, pit toilets, no hookups of any kind. Sometimes water is available, but sometimes it’s true dry camping. We love camping this way. Probably not many are near national parks, but they can be amazing experiences. Good luck with your planning.
It all is kinda stinky. We have had to cancel plans to visit family overseas for my “fatherland’s” national day. We’ve been many times before, but this would have been a first, Bummer, but only residents can get into the country, and even then they are under a mandatory 14 day quarantine. People can’t go to their cabins because if they get sick, the local medical facilities couldn’t care for them adequately. I guess there’s a lesson here... If you think of “escaping” to somewhere there isn’t the virus, there really isn’t anywhere and if you went and got sick, would you be able to get the care you need? Yup, stay safe and stay well, everyone!
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Post by SimonTuffGuy on Mar 22, 2020 17:46:55 GMT -8
It's a shame for a lot of businesses that have to turn people away... They won't be closed forever, but it's a shame of having to reorganize all of your plans.
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Post by oakback on Mar 23, 2020 8:13:22 GMT -8
Florida state parks were closed except for day use only, but now they're all completely closed. People can't be depended on to stay apart, or in small groups. I follow a kayaking group online and they're in a huff because all boat ramps and access points are closing, but the few folks who get on rivers say they see groups of 10-12 people flotilla-style (all grouped together as close as you can get).
Plenty of pics of spring breakers (NOT locals) partying too, until law enforcement has to force them to leave and they shut down all public beach access.
These people make it impossible for responsible folks to go out and get fresh air in recreational areas.
I live by a national forest (no BLM land in this part of the country), we make go boondock in the woods just for a change of scenery.
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Post by maddan on Mar 23, 2020 13:36:22 GMT -8
Since we live in Ohio, not many options available for us to escape everyday life. Now that we are under order to "stay at home", makes the whole idea moot. I'm hoping we can ride this out b/c we have a big trip planned this fall to visit New England, as well as NB, NS and PEI, with reservations already secured. And yes it makes me sad to see a segment of our population not grasping the seriousness of the situation at hand. Stay safe and keep your distance friends.
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Post by turbodaddy on Mar 23, 2020 16:46:47 GMT -8
Here we have another difficult aspect to the Covid-19 problem, not related to camping. Our town's population goes from about 5000 in winter to over 30,000 in summer. On my road there are probably about 50 homes, of which maybe 8 or 10 are normally occupied in winter. The whole of lower Cape Cod is the same. Drive around at night and you can see house after house that is unoccupied. Since last week we've begun seeing people who own second homes escaping from their primary residence in NY,CT,and NJ by coming here. Our entire infrastructure is seasonal, and we barely have adequate resources in the best of times in the off season. There is a very strong sense of resentment brewing. We depend on those people for our livelihood in season, and appreciate them spending money and using the services we provide at that time of year, but now they are adding an unwelcome burden to our already stretched medical and first responder personnel,not to mention they may unknowingly carry the virus. The grocery stores are pretty sparse as well. Our demographics are primarily lots of retired and elderly people who are vulnerable. A tricky social issue for sure.
Our follow up to last summer's Newfoundland trip isn't looking promising, but we are still hopeful. Stay safe my fellow VTT folks!
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Post by Hamlet on Apr 3, 2020 8:02:38 GMT -8
Here we have another difficult aspect to the Covid-19 problem, not related to camping. Our town's population goes from about 5000 in winter to over 30,000 in summer. On my road there are probably about 50 homes, of which maybe 8 or 10 are normally occupied in winter. The whole of lower Cape Cod is the same. Drive around at night and you can see house after house that is unoccupied. Since last week we've begun seeing people who own second homes escaping from their primary residence in NY,CT,and NJ by coming here. Our entire infrastructure is seasonal, and we barely have adequate resources in the best of times in the off season. There is a very strong sense of resentment brewing. We depend on those people for our livelihood in season, and appreciate them spending money and using the services we provide at that time of year, but now they are adding an unwelcome burden to our already stretched medical and first responder personnel,not to mention they may unknowingly carry the virus. The grocery stores are pretty sparse as well. Our demographics are primarily lots of retired and elderly people who are vulnerable. A tricky social issue for sure. Our follow up to last summer's Newfoundland trip isn't looking promising, but we are still hopeful. Stay safe my fellow VTT folks! What you’re describing is a problem in many places that have seasonal residents. And not just here in the states. I’ve been following the Johns Hopkins worldwide tracking of Covid-19 since the day after it went live. It’s been a wild ride. What I’ve found interesting is the difference with countries that are a lot alike and abut each other. We had to cancel our Spring trip to visit my cousins in Norway because the country is basically closed. Even if you are a citizen returning, you have to self quarantine for two weeks. They are testing as many people as they can. Many, many Norwegians have hyttas, small cabins, in rural areas. About a month ago, the government prohibited people from going to their cabins because it could overwhelm the local healthcare system. Sweden has done very little to restrict movement, etc. Four days ago, Norway had more Covid cases than did Sweden, By yesterday, Sweden had nearly 2000 more, and six times as many deaths. Do do I really not like this enforced confinement? Absolutely. But I also believe it’s the first time since WW2 that Americans are being directed to make sacrifices for the good of the entire populace. I only hope we learn from this terrible (in all senses of the word) situation. Stay safe, all!
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Post by turbodaddy on Apr 3, 2020 19:15:07 GMT -8
There are all sorts of personal dilemmas we have to face during this strange time. Let's hope common sense and compassion for all will prevail. Best wishes to all my VTT friends.
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