sherrifriend
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Post by sherrifriend on Feb 27, 2018 10:21:06 GMT -8
Need help finishing up this project please.
1967 Shasta Exterior screws - pan slotted or hex head?
Note: Mine were replaced at some point with #8 3/4" Phillips (pan-head) so I don't know what's right
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Ten
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Post by Ten on Feb 27, 2018 13:36:12 GMT -8
Question,...what is it that makes you think that the screws have been replaced? I can't imagine all had been, that would mean every one in every window frame, door frame, vent cover, j-rail, and any other exterior feature would have been in order that all would match. Seems a lot of work without a complete rebuild to go with 'em.
In my experience, my 64 Airflyte has pan head Phillips throughout, but the 70 16SC had hex head screws. I have found replacement for both styles locally, but it seems the hex are only available in zinc-coated. The Phillips pans are available in stainless, a bit more expense but that's what I will use for the Airflyte someday. I think I would prefer Phillips to slotted screws any time.
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Post by sherrifriend on Feb 27, 2018 15:35:21 GMT -8
Question,...what is it that makes you think that the screws have been replaced? I can't imagine all had been, that would mean every one in every window frame, door frame, vent cover, j-rail, and any other exterior feature would have been in order that all would match. Seems a lot of work without a complete rebuild to go with 'em. In my experience, my 64 Airflyte has pan head Phillips throughout, but the 70 16SC had hex head screws. I have found replacement for both styles locally, but it seems the hex are only available in zinc-coated. The Phillips pans are available in stainless, a bit more expense but that's what I will use for the Airflyte someday. I think I would prefer Phillips to slotted screws any time. I guess they may be original. The skin was removed two times that I can tell for repairs. Two different owners. The front repair by one owner and the rear repair by another. Mine are in rough shape - paint residue and many were stripped out when I removed them. Some were rusted to the J-rail and wood. I'm at the tail end of a rebuild right now and just ordered new skin. I have to make another order from VTT and those were the two options there - pan slotted and hex head. I was just wondering which will look nice and give me the least amount of headache. WWTPD (What Would Trailer People Do?)  |
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Post by Ten on Feb 27, 2018 16:17:15 GMT -8
With a choice, I would (personally speaking) order about 1200- 1500 #8 X 3/4 stainless pan head Phillips, and about 100 #10 X 3/4 stainless pan Phillips. There will be a few others in certain applications that will be longer or larger, but for the most part those will be available at your local Ace or True Value. There are a few places that members have ordered bulk. Boltdepot.com comes to mind first: www.boltdepot.com/Sheet_metal_screws_Phillips_pan_head_Stainless_steel_18-8_8.aspx |
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Post by vikx on Feb 27, 2018 21:08:23 GMT -8
I vote for hex. You can find stainless hex heads if you look. A 67 very likely would have had hex to begin with. All of my late 60s Shastas have had hex heads.
I used fancy stainless phillips truss heads on my 52 Hanson and was not super happy when driving them. Even with the holes pre-drilled, one slip with the bit and it messed up the head. They are VERY hard to drive without damage. I'm guessing they're not fun to remove either...
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Post by ladywendolyn on Feb 28, 2018 7:24:10 GMT -8
This is an interesting delima for me. I personally like the look of hex screws, but my trailer had Robertson screws which are the square Canadian screws. Since I am doing a Canadian themed restoration I have felt like I should go with the robertson, and maybe just use hex on the windows to keep myself happy  |
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Post by Jolene on Feb 28, 2018 7:57:24 GMT -8
My not-a-Shasta has hex all around, and I did what Ten posted - got a stock of #8 and #10 3/4s and I have them on hand whenever I need them. Since I dropped the hex bit for the #8 and magically found it last weekend right when I needed it (in the sand where the hitch jack wheel sits, literally as I was moving the trailer so I could go to the store and buy another bit), I feel like I want to get a back up (or 5) for that.
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Post by vikx on Feb 28, 2018 21:12:56 GMT -8
LadyW, I used Robertsons on my 57 Deluxe, Canasta. It had been rebuilt in Canada by an RV shop, but was first built in the US. I like the look of Robertsons better than hex but either will do. Who's going to look at your screws??? If it was museum quality, yes, but we all use what works for us...
Canasta was not a fun build as the roof was "new" thanks to the RV shop. Rather than remove it, I had days more work trying to replace ceiling panels. Luckily, the closet and bathroom lent a lot of support. Still, I don't want to do another like that...
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Post by ladywendolyn on Feb 28, 2018 21:34:35 GMT -8
Good to know... but of course my trailer will be museum quality so I’ll have to have the perfect screws 😜
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