Post by Teachndad on Aug 19, 2017 22:56:35 GMT -8
Hi Friends,
I have a VIN story for you. Learn from it what you can.
Over twenty years ago in the mid 90s, there lived a tiny cargo trailer. We will call him Guldy because his color was much like Gulden’s brown mustard.
Guldy's Artwork photoshopped by Dan Rhodes.
Guldy was last registered in and around Klamath Falls Oregon in 1995. It was the carrier of goods from a failed attempt at owning a small diner in Klamath Falls. My mother in Law and her friend used it to bring what they had left back home to a house near my own home in southern California. There it sat in the back yard and never moved. It had car tires on it and was literally finally unearthed about 9 months ago. With the passing of my mother in law, it needed to be moved. This would be one of 5 trailers I owned for a short while. The tires still held air! Parked between a metal shed and the house, he spent most of the time alone, but in the shade. Once unearthed, I began wondering what to do with him. Guldy was a strong utility trailer well built for the day. He had a ramp built into the rear door, maybe used for motorcycles. Oregon DMV would later tell me he was first registered in the late 70’s..
Poor forgotten Guldy needed new tires, some work on the coupler to make him safe to pull and the lights didn’t work. I finally decided to sell him to a friend of mine in a trade and he was going to flip him. Guldy and I spent a few weeks together. I spruced up his bearings because they looked and felt like chocolate and I got his coupler mended as part of a deal selling a wood duplicator to a guy on ebay. Lights were a piece of cake after meddling long and hard on my Rod and Reel.
Now, you might ask, why is this in the VIN Subforum?
Well, because, Guldy had no paper work, only an Oregon plate and an Oregon sticker with a number on him glued to his frame. The plate had its last sticker pasted in 1995. No stamped VIN. We went to our local AAA office to find out how easy it would be to register. I was told that I should keep the sticker with the number on it, so it shows that it was once registered. I didn’t have time to run the gauntlet of California DMV, so I decided to sell it to my bud with a Bill of Sale. A two hour tow using my Westerner’s wheels and Guldy got a breath of Valley air and a taste of the desert sands in his first journey in almost 22 years. I think I heard him singing along the 14 freeway – he was soooo happy!
My friend flipped Guldy. He added some new tires and after 2 weeks on Craigslist, he was “sold”. The new buyers were going to give Gully a new life. They painted him a striking black and white. He looked like q penguin. They fixed the coupler by replacing it. He was stunning in his evening dress. He was going to move their things from So Cal to western Arizona.
But, then…
The new owner went to California DMV to register it with a bill of sale from my bud. DMV vomits and says, it’s been registered in Oregon. We can’t register it UNLESS WE HAVE THE PAPERWORK. The tiny Oregon sticker did us in.
Ask me how I find this all out….
I get a call from my bud explaining what is starting to happen. I decide that I am partly responsible for this mishap with this poor couple who bought good ole Guldy and I am the only person that can help.
The only way for the buyer to get any paper work was through me. I had to, with my wife, fill out forms through Oregon DMV that stated we were the only heirs to the trailer and that we wanted to apply for a transfer of registration to the new buyer who bought it from my friend. Okay, so it seems simple enough. After 4 calls to Oregon DMV, who btw, have very nice people manning the phones there, we find out that the forms have to be notarized. Ohhh, did you know that AAA has a notary service? Well, they do. They will tell you that the notary stamp is valid in any of the 50 states. I can unequivocally tell you that it IS NOT! I later find this out after more than 3 weeks later when the paper work boomerangs back because Oregon DMV wont’ accept the notary stamp because the notary stamped an attached piece of paper, not the specific form. Never have AAA notarize anything having to do with trailers.
So, the process starts ALL OVER AGAIN and takes another 3 weeks. So, almost 7 weeks later, $77 for the application for transfer of ownership and another $30 in notary fees and Guldy is finally registered in the hands of the new owner. However, she bought ole Guldy over 2 1/2 months ago. She has had to wait all these months for this saga to finally to come to a conclusion. Her reward was having to pay $120 to register the trailer in Arizona.
HUH?
$120 to register a utility trailer? But, in the meantime, she did continue to tow their stuff between the two states while he was… unregistered.
While Guldy is a cargo trailer, this could have happened with a travel trailer.
Learn from my story.
Guldy is now a happy legal guy enjoying a new life with his new family.
Cheers,
Rod
I have a VIN story for you. Learn from it what you can.
Over twenty years ago in the mid 90s, there lived a tiny cargo trailer. We will call him Guldy because his color was much like Gulden’s brown mustard.
Guldy's Artwork photoshopped by Dan Rhodes.
Guldy was last registered in and around Klamath Falls Oregon in 1995. It was the carrier of goods from a failed attempt at owning a small diner in Klamath Falls. My mother in Law and her friend used it to bring what they had left back home to a house near my own home in southern California. There it sat in the back yard and never moved. It had car tires on it and was literally finally unearthed about 9 months ago. With the passing of my mother in law, it needed to be moved. This would be one of 5 trailers I owned for a short while. The tires still held air! Parked between a metal shed and the house, he spent most of the time alone, but in the shade. Once unearthed, I began wondering what to do with him. Guldy was a strong utility trailer well built for the day. He had a ramp built into the rear door, maybe used for motorcycles. Oregon DMV would later tell me he was first registered in the late 70’s..
Poor forgotten Guldy needed new tires, some work on the coupler to make him safe to pull and the lights didn’t work. I finally decided to sell him to a friend of mine in a trade and he was going to flip him. Guldy and I spent a few weeks together. I spruced up his bearings because they looked and felt like chocolate and I got his coupler mended as part of a deal selling a wood duplicator to a guy on ebay. Lights were a piece of cake after meddling long and hard on my Rod and Reel.
Now, you might ask, why is this in the VIN Subforum?
Well, because, Guldy had no paper work, only an Oregon plate and an Oregon sticker with a number on him glued to his frame. The plate had its last sticker pasted in 1995. No stamped VIN. We went to our local AAA office to find out how easy it would be to register. I was told that I should keep the sticker with the number on it, so it shows that it was once registered. I didn’t have time to run the gauntlet of California DMV, so I decided to sell it to my bud with a Bill of Sale. A two hour tow using my Westerner’s wheels and Guldy got a breath of Valley air and a taste of the desert sands in his first journey in almost 22 years. I think I heard him singing along the 14 freeway – he was soooo happy!
My friend flipped Guldy. He added some new tires and after 2 weeks on Craigslist, he was “sold”. The new buyers were going to give Gully a new life. They painted him a striking black and white. He looked like q penguin. They fixed the coupler by replacing it. He was stunning in his evening dress. He was going to move their things from So Cal to western Arizona.
But, then…
The new owner went to California DMV to register it with a bill of sale from my bud. DMV vomits and says, it’s been registered in Oregon. We can’t register it UNLESS WE HAVE THE PAPERWORK. The tiny Oregon sticker did us in.
Ask me how I find this all out….
I get a call from my bud explaining what is starting to happen. I decide that I am partly responsible for this mishap with this poor couple who bought good ole Guldy and I am the only person that can help.
The only way for the buyer to get any paper work was through me. I had to, with my wife, fill out forms through Oregon DMV that stated we were the only heirs to the trailer and that we wanted to apply for a transfer of registration to the new buyer who bought it from my friend. Okay, so it seems simple enough. After 4 calls to Oregon DMV, who btw, have very nice people manning the phones there, we find out that the forms have to be notarized. Ohhh, did you know that AAA has a notary service? Well, they do. They will tell you that the notary stamp is valid in any of the 50 states. I can unequivocally tell you that it IS NOT! I later find this out after more than 3 weeks later when the paper work boomerangs back because Oregon DMV wont’ accept the notary stamp because the notary stamped an attached piece of paper, not the specific form. Never have AAA notarize anything having to do with trailers.
So, the process starts ALL OVER AGAIN and takes another 3 weeks. So, almost 7 weeks later, $77 for the application for transfer of ownership and another $30 in notary fees and Guldy is finally registered in the hands of the new owner. However, she bought ole Guldy over 2 1/2 months ago. She has had to wait all these months for this saga to finally to come to a conclusion. Her reward was having to pay $120 to register the trailer in Arizona.
HUH?
$120 to register a utility trailer? But, in the meantime, she did continue to tow their stuff between the two states while he was… unregistered.
While Guldy is a cargo trailer, this could have happened with a travel trailer.
Learn from my story.
Guldy is now a happy legal guy enjoying a new life with his new family.
Cheers,
Rod