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Post by batjac65 on Sept 23, 2013 21:29:32 GMT -8
Hi all - I recently bought a Shasta Compact to rebuild. It has no title (doing a search) but it looks like a 64-66 from best I can tell. I've been looking for a "canned ham" type trailer for a while now. Started out wanting an old Scotty, but changed to looking hard for a Shasta as I really liked their look a bit more. This is not quite the one I intended to go after, but I got it for the right price and thought it would make a great learning platform. DSC00110 by Batjac65, on Flickr DSC00111 by Batjac65, on Flickr DSC00112 by Batjac65, on Flickr DSC00146 by Batjac65, on Flickr Its a complete crap pile right now, but I think I can pull this off and make it into a great little camper again. I'm very handy, but I got into the tear-out and realized this was not like anything I've tackled before. This got me to doing some research and that's when I found this place...excellent site, looks like tons of great information available here. Anyway - HI!
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Post by batjac65 on Sept 23, 2013 21:45:01 GMT -8
Interior is completely shot, but that just means its a blank canvas. I plan to just gut it and go back with birch - it will need everything replaced to get rid of the vermin smell that has taken over my shop...<gag reflex> Thankfully, someone before me saw fit to add this nasty, fiberglass, make-you-itch-when-you-take-it-off matting on the roof... DSC00147 by Batjac65, on Flickr DSC00149 by Batjac65, on Flickr Fortunately, the paneling has disappeared in some areas so I wouldn't blindly wish for the framing to really be there... DSC00158 by Batjac65, on Flickr DSC00159 by Batjac65, on Flickr Welp, I guess you'll all get to laugh at me as I embark down this path that I've chosen. Maybe I'll see you on the other side...assuming I get there.
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Post by Ten on Sept 24, 2013 1:41:27 GMT -8
Welcome aboard, and boy, does this look familiar.....Most here won't laugh at you. Most will laugh uncomfortably about having been here (or like me, are still here!), and know what you are about to start on.
There are a number of these model around that have been tackled before, and plenty of reference for the rebuilds. The owners and re-builders are all very willing to help put the pieces back together. This one is a bit rough, no doubt, but it has a good amount of positives to it. It appears that all the original appliances and utilities are in place, and all the windows are there. As you get into this a bit you will find how hard it can be to find these things, which you won't have to, and how good it feels to know the original parts still exist.
Two things I would make mention of to start. First, throw that bunk mattress (and anything else cloth material you might find) out immediately. They hold that wonderful smell in very well. Measure first then throw away.
After that, designate a spot to keep stuff, and don't throw anything away until after you are done with replacing. All of it looks like a simple matter of replacing, but having the original as template for sizing and rebuilding, is invaluable. Also take lots and lots of photos as you dismantle things. This makes a great reference for yourself when the building comes along also.
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 24, 2013 5:48:50 GMT -8
Number Ten is right. You have all the parts. That's the most important thing to look for when purchasing a heap of a trailer to restore. The rest is just replacing wood and possibly some metal skin. Here on this forum you will find all the information and photos you need to accomplish your tasks.
The other important thing to remember is that instead of looking at this as one big ugly project, look at it as a bunch of small projects all neatly wrapped up in a big metal box. One little project at a time. Pick one, finish it and move on to the next. Before you know it you will have a nice camper to show off.
By the way, this is what's known as a "Toaster" style camper. The "Canned Hams" are shaped more like a real canned ham with more of a rounded front and rear. We have a name for just about every shape. 40s trailers were mostly "Bread Loafs", 50s were mostly "Canned Hams", then in the 60s they went to the "Toaster" shape. There are also "Domes" which have a protruded front or rear that hangs out like a Cabover Camper. Then there is a whole nother type called "Teardrops". Those are defined as unable to stand up in and must have an outside accessable galley. All trailers that you can stand up in are called "Stand Ups".
No matter the shape, the basics in all these trailers are the same. They are all just boxes that you can sleep and cook in. The construction methods are all pretty much the same as are the materials used.
Welcome to the board and good luck with your project. Any questions at all can be answered here.
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Post by batjac65 on Sept 24, 2013 11:34:35 GMT -8
Ha! Haven't heard them called a toaster before...but I get it. Yeah, as I said, this is not the one I was looking for, but it's the one I found. After having looked at and missed on several over the last year or so, that one decided to come home with me. I may have to design some slots for the top of it and make it look like a toaster... I picked the Shasta up the second week of Aug, and within two weeks came across one that I would LOVE to have. Isn't that how it always goes? I may still go back and get it, but for the price, I'm a pretty shaky on it. Plus, the kindly lady that owns it is not really interested in negotiating - heck its not even actually for sale, I saw it and stopped. After chatting with her for an hour or so, she asked what I would give and then she came back with her price. I asked to think about it a bit and do some research... Aloha by Batjac65, on Flickr Aloha_Side by Batjac65, on Flickr Missing window is a bit scary, but EVERYTHING is still inside as best I could tell, even the globe on the propane lamp. It's an Aloha, but I'm not sure of the year.
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Post by shastabear on Sept 24, 2013 11:48:55 GMT -8
BUY IT!!!! If you don't, someone else will and it might not be someone interested in a restore. And that Aloha looks more of the style you're looking for, aka 'canned ham'.
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 24, 2013 15:20:54 GMT -8
Yes BUY IT!. That's not a bad looking trailer from what I can see of the outside and it's is a true Canned Ham.
I've thought that if I ever have a "Toaster" model that I would fabricate two pieces of toast to put on top when parked so it looks like they just popped up. It would be a good trailer do a polished finish on. (I can see Soup scratching his head now)
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Post by batjac65 on Sept 24, 2013 16:03:17 GMT -8
She's wanting $1200 which seemed like a bit much to me. If I had done this a time or two and knew what I was getting into...I might not let that bother me.
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Post by Ten on Sept 24, 2013 16:56:12 GMT -8
I don't want to pile on but I gotta go along with the "BUY IT!" sentiment. I was going to ask what kind of pricetag was attached.
I'll throw this out to you without a lot of information to go from. If you do pass on the Aloha, you will think about it often for years. It will haunt you. And, $1200 doesn't seem far out of line just judging from the couple photos. I don't think you could get hurt with it, in the long run. If you were to decide the Compact was "the one" and bailed out of the Aloha later, you should easily get your investment back.
Another point...if it isn't for sale, and there is not any competition for it, you may want to let it simmer a while, maybe the price will come down some after a little simmering....
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Post by shastabear on Sept 24, 2013 17:04:16 GMT -8
Buy the Aloha......work on fixing the Shasta and use it as your tool and guide for the restoration of the Aloha
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Post by bigbill on Sept 24, 2013 17:18:08 GMT -8
Maybe he is like me, my wife say if I bring anything else home you guys will have to take up a collection for flowers. I am not sure what she means.
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 24, 2013 17:45:53 GMT -8
She's wanting $1200 which seemed like a bit much to me. If I had done this a time or two and knew what I was getting into...I might not let that bother me. With the current pricing of the average canned hams that i'm seeing out there, or in other words the comps,,, If that trailer is complete and has all it's parts down to the drawer pulls and formica and seats, then it's worth the $1200 and as pointed out above, you could easilly get your investment back out of it later if you wanted. Do you know about the "Ice Pick" method of getting the price down? Bill you can always sleep in one of the trailers if it get's too bad LOL...
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Post by batjac65 on Sept 24, 2013 18:32:01 GMT -8
Okay, Bill, you must know my wife, because thats not too far from reality... Thanks for the input from everyone. I think I will drive out to check on this lady this weekend and see how she is feeling. If you guys genuinely think that price is not too far out there, maybe I should reconsider. I'm attaching the last photo that I have, as you can see, she has it piled pretty full of stuff. Aloha_Int by Batjac65, on Flickr If I should go in on this thing, you'll all have to share insight on how best to go about replacing the curved framing. I'm sure that everything below the front window is shot. Regarding the ice pick tests...I don't believe that will impact the stance of Miss Willie Mae...she's going to be a tough negotiator. She's not even interested on moving the stuff out so I can get a look until I'm committed to buy. She's a sweet heart, but seems to be tough as nails...16 penny.
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Post by kirkadie on Sept 24, 2013 18:54:27 GMT -8
Gotta pipe in here too... take Miss Willa Mae 9 crisp $100 bills, or better yet 45 $20s (nice little pile of moola, take some magnetic clip on lites, tell her you'll do your best to bring it back to the shape it was in when she and her deceased husband got it oh so long ago, and will bring it back to show her, and she'll be glad you stopped by to buy. Lots of great tutorials here to get you through the beginning stages, then eveything will start to make sense on the rebuild.
I think my wife knows I'm looking at another one, even though I'm just raising walls and building new cabinets on #1, by the way she looks at me when I say I'm going to the market but might be gone for awhile... And #1 is not near ready for me to sleep in, should the ham hit the fan.
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 24, 2013 19:17:28 GMT -8
The ones filled with junk are usually complete because the junk covered up all the stuff worth taking out. Sometimes you find something in the junk that is worth something. One person found $1300 in a trailer. I've found lots of collectables. Everything from real silver ware to china to lanterns and old vintage fishing gear. Name it... Lots of old camping stuff. Tell her not to bother cleaning it up. You never know what you may find in there.
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