1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION

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1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 21, 2016 7:12:23 GMT -8 vintagebruce, portajohn, and 4 more like this

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I bought a 1964 Forester 14 in November of 2015, parked it in the back yard and spent the winter gathering as much intel as I could on forester trailers and how people were restoring them. Thank you Mobiltec for your videos! It was especially nice to here birds chirping in your videos when it was 10 below zero where I am! I tore into The Forester 14 in late march. This was not my first old trailer. It was my third. The last one ( 1966 Yellowstone Cavalier) went from our National Park traveler to a cabin overflow bunk house as our family got older. It seamed a shame to let her sit like that so we sold it. ... And a year later, regret set in! Now my thinking is that I can enjoy the process of bringing a forgotten backyard relic back to life and pass it on. Of course we will need to take it on a shake down trip or two! My goal is to give these trailers another 50 years of life. I am having so much fun learning about the process and am very excited to share the journey with people who may actually be interested in topics like, aluminum skin thickness, paint or strip, staple vs nail vs screw etc... Anyway here's the condensed picture journey of the 1964 Forester 14. I will be adding detail pics of the individual systems ( electrical, Gas, plumbing, sheet metal, etc ) as time permits

Just completed 1964 Forester 14 by dhandkey, on Flickr

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Finished frame with rebuilt brakes, new leaf springs and U bolt assemblies

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Dropfloor with edge guards and undercoating

IMG_5256 by dhandkey, on Flickr
New perimeter floor and droop floor installed

IMG_5301 by dhandkey, on Flickr
lamination plywood cut against the grain for radius bends

IMG_5505 by dhandkey, on Flickr
a lot of radius bends!

IMG_5400 by dhandkey, on Flickr
Lumber ripped to pre 1964 standard of 1 5/8" for proper wall frame thickness

IMG_5299 by dhandkey, on Flickr
clamping front radius

IMG_5300 by dhandkey, on Flickr
clamping straight run on top using laminated strips cut with the grain for rigidilty masonite top strip used as in original.

IMG_5298 by dhandkey, on Flickr
New lower radius . All perimeter framing wood was replaced on this trailer

IMG_5333 by dhandkey, on Flickr
fender detail

IMG_5345 by dhandkey, on Flickr
Curbside framing

IMG_5352 by dhandkey, on Flickr
freshly nailed and routed streetside panel. Notice masonite panel for back of kitchen as was original

IMG_5476 by dhandkey, on Flickr

The french technique of shellac application. Painstaking but beutiful outcome

IMG_5197 by dhandkey, on Flickr

IMG_5371 by dhandkey, on Flickr
pocket screws for fastening new lumber

IMG_5357 by dhandkey, on Flickr

New window framing in addition to all perimeter framing

IMG_5360 by dhandkey, on Flickr
Dry fitting of interior

IMG_5477 by dhandkey, on Flickr

More shellac on interior walls. Gimp and correct brass screw nail detail

IMG_5395 by dhandkey, on Flickr

IMG_5423 by dhandkey, on Flickr

Armstrong CVT tiles cut to 9" vintage square

IMG_5391 by dhandkey, on Flickr

Raised floor detail

IMG_5448 by dhandkey, on Flickr

interior install

IMG_5473 by dhandkey, on Flickr

roof install

IMG_5467 by dhandkey, on Flickr

Front birch wood install

IMG_5471 by dhandkey, on Flickr

Ready for the next layer of lamination that will match the rafter height

IMG_5507 by dhandkey, on Flickr

Clamping the laminations

IMG_5506 by dhandkey, on Flickr
clamping the lower lamination that match the front rafters depth

IMG_5482 by dhandkey, on Flickr
rafters for roof vent. Old Vs new. Staples and nails =old. Coated screws = new

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Insulation with Perm rating. Will allow the trailer to Exhale moisture

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Armstrong CVT 9" floor detail with burgundy tile inlay

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Detail of CVT tile, edge guard and gimping

IMG_5500 by dhandkey, on Flickr

If your a hammer, everything looks like a nail

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Front dinette detail

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Dry run Hanging the siding for a one man install. Before house wrap. Where's that house wrap pic?

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The 64' chimney cut

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making an opening for the fan

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side marketer light opening with fresh wiring

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waterproof inlet and a fun little sticker that seemed right for this spot.

IMG_4894 by dhandkey, on Flickr

My powerpoint "blueprint" for the luggage door sheet metal

Last Edit: Oct 21, 2016 7:52:35 GMT -8 by handkey

nccamper Administrator Posts: 7,745 Likes: 2,872 1962 Forester- 1956 Shasta Currently Offline	1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 21, 2016 9:54:28 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nccamper on Oct 21, 2016 9:54:28 GMT -8 Amazing work from start to finish. Beautiful. What is the name of the tan tiles you used?
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1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 21, 2016 13:31:53 GMT -8 nccamper likes this

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Oct 21, 2016 9:54:28 GMT -8 nccamper said:

Amazing work from start to finish. Beautiful.

What is the name of the tan tiles you used?

Of course I threw the box away. It is armstrong imperial texture. Standard Excelon Vinyl Composition tile. Don't know color

vintagebruce 2K Member Posts: 2,814 Likes: 975 Currently Offline	1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 21, 2016 14:40:46 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by vintagebruce on Oct 21, 2016 14:40:46 GMT -8 Very nice rebuild!!

msgoehring Full Member Just call me Margaret the shellac, buff, sand an shine queen. Posts: 860 Likes: 303 1957 Westerner Deluxe Currently Offline	1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 21, 2016 20:34:45 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by msgoehring on Oct 21, 2016 20:34:45 GMT -8 Love what you've done, it looks beautiful. And now you have me wondering if anyone has some extra teal vct tiles they'd be willing to sell so I can do the same with my floor.
	I decided to get a vintage trailer so I could get out of my house more and see the country. How then did most of the trailer get in my house and the other parts of it get to see the country?

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1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 21, 2016 21:02:08 GMT -8

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Really enjoying this, Handkey.

Question: What is the insulation used and is it permeable? Sounds like it might be just the ticket. Also, when you cut it, was it a big mess? As in little beads everywhere? I've thought about trying a different type of foam insulation to lessen the mess.

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1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 22, 2016 13:24:38 GMT -8 vikx likes this

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Oct 21, 2016 21:02:08 GMT -8 vikx said:

Really enjoying this, Handkey.

Question: What is the insulation used and is it permeable? Sounds like it might be just the ticket. Also, when you cut it, was it a big mess? As in little beads everywhere? I've thought about trying a different type of foam insulation to lessen the mess.

I used Owens Corning Foamular 150 Moisture resistant XPS insulation.
EPS is the stuff that breaks into the beads.
XPS can be cut with a razor or a bread knife.

Heres some great info on performance of XPS vs EPS

ww3.owenscorning.com/sciencedoesntlie/

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1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 24, 2016 2:56:25 GMT -8

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Post by bev on Oct 24, 2016 2:56:25 GMT -8

Nice quality lamination on your curves.

I picked up a trick from one of your pics. you placed a small rod between all your springs clamps to hold your metal straight. very smart. i'm going to use that one.

thanks for sharing.

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Oct 24, 2016 2:56:25 GMT -8 bev said:

Nice quality lamination on your curves.

I picked up a trick from one of your pics. you placed a small rod between all your springs clamps to hold your metal straight. very smart. i'm going to use that one.

thanks for sharing.

The curves were a pleasant surprise. Going into this, I thought I would have to "steam " the wood. Once I started cutting the fresh plywood into the strips, it became evident that cutting against the grain created quite a floppy strip of plywood. Then it was all about copying the staggered overlapping original pattern.For those that have not done it, you can glue the staggered layers together, tack them in place to the frame members on the radius and then keep the layers squeezed together with clamps, lots and lots of clamps. After clamping but with the glue still wet, I stapled the laminated layers together on the top side and underside, just like the original. I moved the clamps so they were spread evenly between the fasters and kept the clamps on till the glue was dry. I cut the Curves are cut from the 4' end and straight runs from the 8' side.

Yes , the pipe keeps the sheet metal from bending and it gives you a way to hang the metal hands free. It also lets you work solo once its up there. After hanging the sheet, I jacked the trailer up and down until the trailer was parallel to the sheet metal . The pipe is a run of wire conduit left over from another project. The clamps barely grabbed the sheet so I kept adding clamps till I was comfortable it would not slip out.

mel Senior Member 1964 Shasta Airflyte Posts: 1,729 Likes: 523 Currently Offline	1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Oct 24, 2016 14:07:48 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mel on Oct 24, 2016 14:07:48 GMT -8 Wow looks awesome! great job!
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1964 FORESTER 14 FRAME OFf RESTORATION Apr 3, 2017 19:41:38 GMT -8

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Stripes. I chose to tweak the traditional Forester stripe pattern a bit. I wanted to give it a little personality, but not stray too far from original. I used 2" wide marine grade vinyl. The burgundy matches the burgundy inly I put into the floor. New tires, rimes and moon hubcaps should complete with build up. ... oh and two more Forester logos for the street side and back side!

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Handkey, that is just totally amazing.
I see the threads of the campers through the various stages of a rebuild and it just gets Me excited to try and find another camper to rebuild.
You do some mighty fine work.
I can do it but for some reason it never comes out looking so nice as this one.
Maybe the next one will be better. made a few small mistakes on Mine, might keep Me from messing up if someone wants Me to do a rebuild on theirs.

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So you put the stripes on with vinyl stickers? I was wondering how well something like that would work since the design on the Westerner is dual lines and will be a lot of work to paint. How well do you think those stripes will hold up? They look good in the picture.

I decided to get a vintage trailer so I could get out of my house more and see the country. How then did most of the trailer get in my house and the other parts of it get to see the country?

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Vinyl Stripes have been on cars and boats for 30+ years. How good they will look in 30 years is more dependent on exposure to the sun , gravel roads etc. Maybe vinyl makes it 20 years and paint 30 before it needs help? Vinyl beats paint in ease of application and ease of removal , re-application. I Put higher value in those features for an all white trailer if one wants to change the stripe location or color or maybe peel it off and two tone the trailer some day!

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