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Post by 62scotty on Jun 21, 2016 15:10:09 GMT -8
Hi All, I'm not the most frequent contributor but I have gained so much from frequenting the site during my build! Thanks again. I have a 1962 Scottman, a 13ft plywood wall trailer. Framing and paneling the ceiling is next. Should the framing go inside the plywood walls or should it go on top of the plywood walls? It was originally built on top of the wall but framing the ceiling inside the walls seems stronger to me. here is our progress: screencast.com/t/zVRgscA2KMVWscreencast.com/t/ZT7hhnLxLb-Nick |
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Post by vikx on Jun 21, 2016 20:48:01 GMT -8
Wow, you've been busy! Congrats on your progress.
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Post by nccamper on Jun 22, 2016 4:45:37 GMT -8
You're rolling right along. Excellent. I don't have the answer to your question but I'm sure somebody with experience framing plywood walls will chime in.
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Post by Poquito on Jun 23, 2016 3:27:41 GMT -8
You can visit: www.nationalserroscotty.org/ Many small Scotty's were built with the plywood walls. Go to the rebuilds page. My '68 and '73 Scotty Gauchos were plywood walls and I have been using NSS.org and this site for quite a bit of information. My favorite is Nancy Kroes, she has several Scotty's but Scotty #2 shows a step by step photo diary of her rebuild. Stay away from FACEBOOK advise unless you recognize the name of a reputable restorer. The ceiling in mine is built by framing the two sides together with cross boards at the intervals of the originals. frame out the windows and the ceiling vent then attach the interior ply. They had insulation then the top metal roof. For the vent - Mobiltec has a video of framing the vent to help with water run-off, but I don't know off hand which video it is. I need to review that one again soon. Good luck, it looks good so far! Poquito |
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Post by Poquito on Jun 23, 2016 4:48:00 GMT -8
After reviewing my photos, I saw that the interior ply is first, then framing. The framing on my '73 is sitting on top of the interior ply, with framing (including the curved framed plys) on top. <a href="http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreamsaremadeofthese/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160611_194658_zps4qyzstrr.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/dreamsaremadeofthese/Mobile%20Uploads/20160611_194658_zps4qyzstrr.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 20160611_194658_zps4qyzstrr.jpg"/></a> Trying to upload more pics but photobucket is too slow for me. Poquito |
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Post by Ross on Jun 23, 2016 8:11:54 GMT -8
Your Sportsman is looking awesome! The 2 Scotty's that I have rebuilt, I attached the ceiling panels to the top of the walls. One of the Scotty's , I went with 3/4" walls and the other, I left the 1/2" walls. You will get a clean and tight inside corner this way.    |
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Post by windborn on Jun 24, 2016 14:18:17 GMT -8
I also did what Ross did: 1/2 in ply walls, then 1/8in ceiling and wall panels on top of that, then framing on top of that. But we glued the supports onto the ends of the plywood first to make the 1/8 easier to handle. Make sure you predrill when attaching the framing to the 1/2in walls. They're thin so it's easy to accidentally poke a screw through a wall. (I have a few of those.)
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Post by 62scotty on Jul 6, 2016 15:50:24 GMT -8
Awesome! Thanks for all the feedback. We're going to start the process tonight or tomorrow with hopes to be done by the end of the week.
One last question.. What did people use for the ceiling framing? fir? what dimensions?
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Post by kirkadie on Jul 6, 2016 16:26:21 GMT -8
My '69 Hilander's framing was 1X6s ripped in half so were actual 3/4" X 2 5/8+". I strengthened 'em up in certain areas like where the tail lights mount, and used the original skins temporarily laid back on the body to make sure there was wood under where the running lights land, as there were none on the original (which probably allowed water in when their hold-down screws loosened up over time).
Fir is good, but in '69 they used whatever they could find which in PA was pine, and knots did not disqualify their choice in materials, nor did not having walls parallel or even the same length.
That said, Scotty was still alive although barely.
Use the clearest wood you can find at your local lumber yard but no reason to go furniture grade because in the end, the framing only serves as nailers and their integrity depends mostly on keeping water out. I started out using small head screws to fasten them to the plywood walls but then found a long leg stapler at HF and although I hated all the staples when I was tearing Scotty down, they do a great job of fastening the framing.
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