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Post by mobiltec on Jun 12, 2016 8:34:07 GMT -8
When it comes to plywood trailers I'm the wrong guy to ask. I think Ross can help you more than I can.
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Post by vikx on Jun 12, 2016 20:16:39 GMT -8
Poquito,
Be sure to check the bottom of the ply walls very carefully! Scotties like to rot along the bottom and below the door. You need to be sure the entire wall and sills are sound before moving forward.
Yes, you can cover the inside wall IF the walls are sturdy, well attached and sound. The Scotty I had was very rickety and the frame had some hair line cracks. The body had come loose and was bouncing separately from the frame, causing metal stress.
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Post by Poquito on Jun 13, 2016 5:24:52 GMT -8
Thanks Vikx, I pulled the rest of the skin and inspected it, I just didn't have that photo uploaded yet. Yes rot along the bottom of the door and curb. After pulling the skin off the driver's side I found more rot than I expected. I was surprised that it was worse than the curbside. So I'll be replacing all the sides. No sense trying to replace 3/4 of it.
On Serro Scotty National forum, Nancy Kroes redoes a scotty #2 walls with Birch hardwood panel and 1/8 birch for the front back and ceiling. I might be able to get the 1/2 Birch - I located 2 pieces close to me and will check to see if there is more about 25 miles away. Is there any opinion on using the Birch hardwood? It will be a bit heavier 50 lbs a panel but I worry about the elements on this board. Any opinions on Birch hardwood vs a plywood for the walls?
Sorry I'm being so needy...I can't seem to find direct answers to my questions by searches because every trailer seems to be a little bit different and have different issues with owners with different needs and wants...
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Post by kirkadie on Jun 14, 2016 2:48:50 GMT -8
Poquito, I don't understand about using birch hardwood... do you mean to frame the walls like Shastas? Just remember, if you plan on using the original skins you have to keep the width of the trailer the original size. If the skins go on correctly and everything is sealed well, birch hardwood will weather just as well as (probably better than) the crummy pine Scotty used at the factory. |
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Post by Poquito on Jun 14, 2016 9:14:37 GMT -8
Thanks, the walls are the solid paneling not framed in. Just wasn't sure if the Birch hardwood could handle the moisture compared to let's say a marine plywood. She did paint the outside side with a protective type paint and and did foil insulation. I know I am not a fan of plywood, never have been, so I don't know much about it. I think I will do a little more investigating to see what conclusion I can come with. - and keeping the overall width in mind.
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 14, 2016 11:36:09 GMT -8
Thanks, the walls are the solid paneling not framed in. Just wasn't sure if the Birch hardwood could handle the moisture compared to let's say a marine plywood. She did paint the outside side with a protective type paint and and did foil insulation. I know I am not a fan of plywood, never have been, so I don't know much about it. I think I will do a little more investigating to see what conclusion I can come with. - and keeping the overall width in mind. "Just wasn't sure if the Birch hardwood could handle the moisture compared to let's say a marine plywood." The whole idea is to rebuild and re-seal it in such a way that there is no moisture to worry about. Many of the Teardrops are built with 3/4 inch or 1/2 inch birch plywood. Teardrops are built much the same way as Serro Scotties. |
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Post by Poquito on Jun 14, 2016 12:37:58 GMT -8
Yes, I won't know if all my efforts will work until it pours in 90% humidity in FL. Maybe I should just stop frettin' and get on with it!
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Post by kirkadie on Jun 14, 2016 13:01:54 GMT -8
I painted the outer side of my 1/2" ply with primer and cheap exterior paint, primarily because I knew it would be awhile before I'd be at the point to replace the aluminum, and even tho the trailer is out of the weather I didn't want the plywood exposed to humidity. I think if you do that you'll be just fine, and of course, as Larry pointed out, you'll be sealing the whole thing up to keep moisture out. Scotty never treated the outer side of the ply at the factory, and where it stayed dry on mine it was still fine. Sadly mine leaked for years so there wasn't much that "stayed dry and was still fine"!
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Post by kamhawk on Jun 14, 2016 14:36:49 GMT -8
I used 3/4" Birch ply from Menards. I then routed out the areas that fit around the wheel wells and where it attached to the floor. I also routed out a place for a spline on the verticle joints. My Scotty was held together with just wide staples and glue for the verticle joints. Just another idea. I too did not like the 1975 blonde paneling and wanted to go with a more vintage look.  |
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Post by danrhodes on Jun 14, 2016 15:24:00 GMT -8
I used 3/4" Birch ply from Menards. I then routed out the areas that fit around the wheel wells and where it attached to the floor. I also routed out a place for a spline on the verticle joints. My Scotty was held together with just wide staples and glue for the verticle joints. Just another idea. I too did not like the 1975 blonde paneling and wanted to go with a more vintage look. Why did you change your wheel wells? |
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Post by kamhawk on Jun 15, 2016 8:50:40 GMT -8
I didn't change my wheel wells. That is why I had to rout out that area to keep the original width of the trailer with 1/2" ply. So, all the black area has been routed out from the 3/4" ply to make it 1/2" ply........if that makes any scence?
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Post by danrhodes on Jun 15, 2016 9:39:55 GMT -8
I didn't change my wheel wells. That is why I had to rout out that area to keep the original width of the trailer with 1/2" ply. So, all the black area has been routed out from the 3/4" ply to make it 1/2" ply........if that makes any scence? Now I understand. For some reason, I thought that was an old wall under the new |
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Post by Poquito on Jun 15, 2016 15:27:30 GMT -8
Yes, good ideas danrhodes, I get the routing thing totally. Interesting idea to keep those thin boards lining up the doorway too. I can see the whole panel might get wonky when it is picked up.
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Post by Poquito on Jun 16, 2016 3:19:30 GMT -8
danrhodes, did you coat the whole exterior side or just the bottom? And what did you use to coat the board? Thanks, Poquito
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Post by danrhodes on Jun 16, 2016 5:20:52 GMT -8
danrhodes, did you coat the whole exterior side or just the bottom? And what did you use to coat the board? Thanks, Poquito I think it was kirkadie who discussed painting the plywood edges, but I also went and started a thread in the topic due to this conversation. I used the same asphalt sealer I put on the bottom to paint the lower sill and am still considering using it on the upper curbing too |
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