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Post by frenchie on Feb 28, 2016 18:55:15 GMT -8
Hi y'all ... Thank you for adding me... I acquired recently a 1966 24' Barth trailer that I started to revamp. .. I m a Chef and owns with my wife a food truck in the shape of a 1987 short school bus that I bought last year... It took me 8 month to turn it into an operational food truck. My goal with the Barth is to turn it into a second food truck that I will haul with the school bus .. BUT I want to make it modular enough that I can go camping with the wife and kids... Cheers  |
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Post by frenchie on Feb 28, 2016 18:59:20 GMT -8
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Post by frenchie on Feb 28, 2016 19:02:13 GMT -8
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Post by danrhodes on Feb 28, 2016 19:24:22 GMT -8
Our home town food bus. Curious how are you going to maintain the structural cabinetry while gutting it for a kitchen? theburgerbus.com/ |
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Post by nccamper on Feb 28, 2016 19:27:29 GMT -8
Welcome. I like the front windows of your camper. One of the common pieces of advice you'll get here is to be careful about how you replace inside panels. The best way is to do it from the outside working in. Since you've already done the demo you'll have to think through how to reinstall the support normally provided when the panels overlap each other in the corners. As you may know, the cabinets also offer support. Every camper comes with its own set of challenges.  |
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Post by frenchie on Feb 29, 2016 3:21:58 GMT -8
Welcome. I like the front windows of your camper. One of the common pieces of advice you'll get here is to be careful about how you replace inside panels. The best way is to do it from the outside working in. Since you've already done the demo you'll have to think through how to reinstall the support normally provided when the panels overlap each other in the corners. As you may know, the cabinets also offer support. Every camper comes with its own set of challenges. Thanks... I m a bit confused here... I would agree on the structural importance of the cabinetry and working from the outside to the inside if it was a Shasta or a Scotty but the Barth has an all aluminum frame composed of interlocking beams... I was very careful of figuring out how the cabinetry was attached to the structure before gutting it out... none was bolted or riveted to the frame but rather fixed to the paneling ... the paneling itself was made of a cardboard like material and i don't see how cardboard would add any strength to the structure ... unless you tell me otherwise ...  |
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Post by turbodaddy on Feb 29, 2016 4:41:39 GMT -8
Indeed, you have a completely different kettle of fish, and in some ways it may make what you want to do easier. Seems like the structural integrity issues we all discuss here will be less of an issue for you. (I'm hoping that the interior was a mess before you ripped it all out.)
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Post by vintagebruce on Feb 29, 2016 15:52:45 GMT -8
 to VTT. I don't know how or where you scored your Barth camper, but if I understand the Barth history, during the period from 1963 to around 1970 or 1972 when Mr. Barth sold the travel trailer business and the new owner began focusing on producing high end Motorhomes, there were never more than 300 Barth pull behind campers built in a calendar year. That makes your camper a bit more interesting both in the way it was made, which is almost identical I believe to the way they made their Motorhomes, and the fact that there is a solid interest in the Barth camper group to save as many of the pull behinds as possible as campers. You might want to check and see what your camper in it's current condition might "fetch" on the open market. You might be able to purchase another interesting vintage camper to convert, with some money left over for equipment. They really clean up nicely when the paint is removed. Personally and it is just my opinion, I'd like to see you keep it as a family camper and transform a different vintage candidate into your second food stand/camper. There might be problems getting it certified/licensed as a food vendor if it is also known that it will serve a dual purpose as a family camper. Good luck with it.
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Post by frenchie on Feb 29, 2016 19:06:06 GMT -8
Indeed, you have a completely different kettle of fish, and in some ways it may make what you want to do easier. Seems like the structural integrity issues we all discuss here will be less of an issue for you. (I'm hoping that the interior was a mess before you ripped it all out.) The interior was indeed a mess and I should add there was not much left by the previous owner who started to gut it before me  |
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Post by frenchie on Feb 29, 2016 19:16:44 GMT -8
to VTT. I don't know how or where you scored your Barth camper, but if I understand the Barth history, during the period from 1963 to around 1970 or 1972 when Mr. Barth sold the travel trailer business and the new owner began focusing on producing high end Motorhomes, there were never more than 300 Barth pull behind campers built in a calendar year. That makes your camper a bit more interesting both in the way it was made, which is almost identical I believe to the way they made their Motorhomes, and the fact that there is a solid interest in the Barth camper group to save as many of the pull behinds as possible as campers. You might want to check and see what your camper in it's current condition might "fetch" on the open market. You might be able to purchase another interesting vintage camper to convert, with some money left over for equipment. They really clean up nicely when the paint is removed. Personally and it is just my opinion, I'd like to see you keep it as a family camper and transform a different vintage candidate into your second food stand/camper. There might be problems getting it certified/licensed as a food vendor if it is also known that it will serve a dual purpose as a family camper. Good luck with it. Thanks for the welcoming post ... I appreciate your concern/thoughts about having it certified as a food truck/trailer but after converting and having it certified by the Health Department my current school bus into a mobile kitchen I became sort of an expert (I slept with the food code on my side for almost a year ) on how to do it... rest assured that I will take care of my Barth as if it was my daughter  ? |
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 29, 2016 19:41:05 GMT -8
Hi Frenchie and welcome to the madness... Yep this is one of those other types of trailers where the interior paneling and cabinets are installed from the inside at the factory. Therefor they come out the same way. Just like you did it. From the inside. Most trailers are built completely different with wood framing and two walls that are wrapped with paneling from front to rear. The unibody design is an old technique for fast building and strength while saving a lot of weight and materials. Other trailers like the Silver streak, Many of the Boles Aeros, Spartans, and a few others are metal framed and the only way to install the paneling and cabinets is from the inside. Never heard of a Barth but it highly resembles a Boles.
These metal framed trailers also need cabinets to retain strength and not sway so make sure to put at least as much back in as you took out. You can customize to meet your needs though. I think these types of trailers are a much better candidate for becoming concession trailers than wood framed. Cleaner too if it's for food. It will be fun to watch your build.
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Post by kirkadie on Feb 29, 2016 21:18:23 GMT -8
I was offered a Barth same size as yours before I found the Scotty. I joined the Barth organization and was really impressed with their trailers and motorhomes. Superior to both Airstream and Streaks construction wise and really expensive. I passed because my friend had installed a skylight, like 3'X4' where a vent may have been, which leaked and brought down that plastic covered cardboard-ish ceiling material you referred to in your post. I was impressed with the roof framing, and the wrap around rock guard protecting the front windows, and really liked the front kitchen with the counter that wrapped around to the street side. I regret now not taking it because it was a gift but at the time it seemed too heavy for my T-100. I think you have the exact platform for your food truck because it was so well built, although the purist in me would also like to see it set up with a covered deck and BBQ pit along our Muskingum River. It's really a beautiful trailer.
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Post by elewayne on Mar 4, 2016 22:19:07 GMT -8
A very high end trailer. Looks to be very nicely built. Rare too.
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Post by frenchie on Mar 25, 2016 1:08:52 GMT -8
Updates : . 1 wall done polishing... I did not expect it to be so hard... I ve tried a gazillion different products and techniques and it seems that only elbow grease works . Inside insulation done . Electricity 80% completed . Ceiling paneling 80%...  |
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Post by frenchie on Mar 25, 2016 1:10:03 GMT -8
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to VTT. I don't know how or where you scored your Barth camper, but if I understand the Barth history, during the period from 1963 to around 1970 or 1972 when Mr. Barth sold the travel trailer business and the new owner began focusing on producing high end Motorhomes, there were never more than 300 Barth pull behind campers built in a calendar year. That makes your camper a bit more interesting both in the way it was made, which is almost identical I believe to the way they made their Motorhomes, and the fact that there is a solid interest in the Barth camper group to save as many of the pull behinds as possible as campers. You might want to check and see what your camper in it's current condition might "fetch" on the open market. You might be able to purchase another interesting vintage camper to convert, with some money left over for equipment. They really clean up nicely when the paint is removed. Personally and it is just my opinion, I'd like to see you keep it as a family camper and transform a different vintage candidate into your second food stand/camper. There might be problems getting it certified/licensed as a food vendor if it is also known that it will serve a dual purpose as a family camper. Good luck with it.
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