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Post by nccamper on Jan 1, 2016 17:22:31 GMT -8
This thread is for all newcomers who are considering clever, time-saving shortcuts. Many of the things you're considering will torture some innocent person who has to undo the shortcut later. So please, I'm begging you, don't do this... Five gallons of house paint: It takes 1 day to put on and two weeks of toxic chemicals to get off. -- Tar: This takes one minute to do and hours to undo. -- Tape the tarp to the camper: Have you ever tried to get old tape adhesive off? It's not easy. -- Glue carpet to perfectly good vintage tiles: Why not? Because they were perfectly good vintage tiles! -- Caulk around the vent: It NEVER works for long. In this case they tried a second shortcut, spray foam. That bright idea took me two hours to cut away without destroying the roof skin. I'm sure other members have a few tips they can add to my list.
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Post by joek on Jan 2, 2016 10:44:39 GMT -8
When I did my restore, I duct taped the tarp to the trailer for the winter. Worked great, until it was time to remove the tape and it left all the adhesive behind. I recall thinking I'd just use some nasty solvent, but didn't find one nasty enough. A combination of lacquer thinner and lots of scrubbing finally removed it, but that took a lot longer than I had anticipated and resulted in very sore fingers.
What I'm pretty sure would have worked is a pinstriping removal tool. It's like 4" diameter rubber eraser that fits on a drill motor. I've been using it to remove the left over butyl tape, on finished painted surfaces. It doesn't harm the paint and strips the butyl away pretty easily, leaving behind nothing but eraser shavings. Originally bought it to remove 45 year old vinyl adhesive on the automotive project, worked great for that too. Cheap tool too.
www.amazon.com/AES-Industries-51823-Eraser-Adapter/dp/B00488DDB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451759514&sr=8-1&keywords=pinstriping+removal+tool
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Post by nccamper on Jan 2, 2016 20:43:54 GMT -8
JoeK, this looks great. It doesn't mess up the paint at all? I created this thread because I've realized that removing goop, tar, etc. seems to eat up 20% of my time.
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Post by carvelloafer on Jan 3, 2016 6:55:44 GMT -8
When I did my restore, I duct taped the tarp to the trailer for the winter. Worked great, until it was time to remove the tape and it left all the adhesive behind. I recall thinking I'd just use some nasty solvent, but didn't find one nasty enough. A combination of lacquer thinner and lots of scrubbing finally removed it, but that took a lot longer than I had anticipated and resulted in very sore fingers.
What I'm pretty sure would have worked is a pinstriping removal tool. It's like 4" diameter rubber eraser that fits on a drill motor. I've been using it to remove the left over butyl tape, on finished painted surfaces. It doesn't harm the paint and strips the butyl away pretty easily, leaving behind nothing but eraser shavings. Originally bought it to remove 45 year old vinyl adhesive on the automotive project, worked great for that too. Cheap tool too.
www.amazon.com/AES-Industries-51823-Eraser-Adapter/dp/B00488DDB8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451759514&sr=8-1&keywords=pinstriping+removal+tool
Great looking tool, I've flagged it on Amazon. I wonder if it works on silicone? That is another thing to never do to a trailer, SILICONE!
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 3, 2016 7:26:00 GMT -8
Unfortunately the people you are talking to do not come to this forum...
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Post by bigbill on Jan 3, 2016 9:24:39 GMT -8
Let the person who has used duct tape and never regretted it later raise their hand. I use both it and masking tape but I have learned to never leave it in place very long and never never leave it out in the weather. I believe that masking tape that has been rained on and left out in the sun is worse than duct tape to remove.
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Post by nccamper on Jan 3, 2016 11:39:28 GMT -8
I guess campers follow a predictable a life cycle. At first they're new valuable, then they're just old worthless junk that you patch together with duct tape and foam, then they're valuable vintage collectibles. I guess a lot of what I'm seeing this week has been done during the junk phase. It's a little frustrating because I've spent the last few days dealing with glue, tar, tape and spray foam.
O'well...
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Post by joek on Jan 3, 2016 18:45:34 GMT -8
It didn't damage the paint on my trailer, though mine is in really good condition and only 3 years old. I think it's going to depend on the bond that the residue has on the paint, if it is harder than the bond the paint has to it's own substrate, or if the paint itself is softer than the wheel, then you'd likely have some damage to the paint. I guess the smart thing would be to try it out in an inconspicuous area first.
I would think it'd work on silicone. Might still leave that final film behind but silicone remover would do quick work to that.
Do you think we spend more time fixing damage from bad repairs, or damage from repairs/maintenance that never happened in the first place?
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Post by nccamper on Jan 3, 2016 19:03:58 GMT -8
"Do you think we spend more time fixing damage from bad repairs..."
I really don't mind the repair work needed because of age or weather/water. I can even roll with repairs caused by sloppy workmanship. But a repair where laziness was the driving force can really slow you down.
I had one camper where them must have put an entire tube of caulk in the corner then imbedded new screws in the wet caulk. Another where they sprayed the ceiling vent with expanding foam to fill almost the entire vent hole. These are the repairs that eat up time.
I honestly spend 20% of my time with toxic solvents to remove goop.
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 3, 2016 19:28:14 GMT -8
I found old curtains mixed with some kind of cakey goop stuffed in the gaping gap between the front wall and the floor on the 59 Shasta. The gap was about 2 inches and spanned almost the entire front of the trailer.
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Post by nccamper on Jan 3, 2016 19:31:01 GMT -8
Priceless!
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Post by SusieQ on Jan 4, 2016 16:38:52 GMT -8
The citrus goop off stuff takes duct tape residue off very easily. Voice of experience.
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Post by vintagebruce on Jan 4, 2016 16:50:33 GMT -8
I go along with everything said...except about gluing carpet over good vintage tile...I think you must have meant, gluing anything except primo shag carpeting over good vintage tile, right?
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Post by bigbill on Jan 4, 2016 17:12:56 GMT -8
The greatest patch job I have ever found was a six inch hole punched in a roof, mostly likely by a falling limb. Then someone covered it with two layers of duct tape, one in each direction about three or four inches out then painted the roof with silver goop about a 1/4 to 3/8 thick. It was the best lipstick I have ever seen you couldn't tell it was there till to pressed on it and it caved in.
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Post by nccamper on Jan 4, 2016 20:00:56 GMT -8
Again, priceless.
You can't make this stuff up.
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