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Post by davek on Dec 2, 2015 15:12:20 GMT -8
I desperately need 3/4" and 1" twist nails in size 11 and 12 with a round head. Anyone have a source? McMaster-Carr does not have round head bigger then 13.
Thanks for any help
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Post by nccamper on Dec 2, 2015 19:26:26 GMT -8
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Post by davek on Dec 2, 2015 19:54:16 GMT -8
No luck with those websites but I will give them a call tomorrow. Starting to think I might be out of luck. Thanks for the input.
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Post by davek on Dec 3, 2015 8:01:27 GMT -8
Might have found what I need. They are aluminum, I know aluminum twist nails are hard to remove but will they hold up to years of use? The ones I am looking at are on the bottom right of this page www.teardropparts.com/hardware-parts.html |
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Post by nccamper on Dec 3, 2015 10:20:00 GMT -8
Odd that they call it a screw. I guess it works but I wonder how it will hold up to a palm nailer. Only one way to find out.
Keep us posted.
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Post by davek on Dec 3, 2015 12:34:42 GMT -8
Really on the fence about using these. Really like the look and prefer working with nails to screws but the next tear down will be a nightmare.
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Post by gary350 on Dec 3, 2015 13:55:45 GMT -8
Look like screws to me.
Google calls these twist nails. I have not used nails on anything in 15 years, screws are better, easy to remove, never come out on their own.
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Post by danrhodes on Dec 3, 2015 16:43:21 GMT -8
Look like screws to me.
Google calls these twist nails. I have not used nails on anything in 15 years, screws are better, easy to remove, never come out on their own.
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 3, 2015 18:51:42 GMT -8
Believe it or not Home Depot sells the bigger ones also. You just have to know where to look. I mean why in the world would they put it in the FASTENERS isle? The best place to look for large twisty nails is in the Flooring dept. Where the edge metal for carpet and tile is. That's what they use to nail that stuff down. And God forbid that any of the employees walking around there know that.
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Post by vikx on Dec 3, 2015 20:38:41 GMT -8
Looking at the twisties that Gary350 posted, I'm thinking they won't work on our thin paneling. The shank looks to be smooth for 1/2" close to the head. Tap one in and it will grab OK in the framing but the hole in the paneling will be enlarged, allowing movement...
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Post by gary350 on Dec 4, 2015 7:10:31 GMT -8
There are many different kinds of twist nails. They are all hard to hammer IN and hard to pull OUT. Boards often split or break from the difficult hammering. Good luck getting things apart with out destroying it if you make a mistake. You can buy screws in many sizes, lengths, heads, threads, and drivers slots, some come with rubber, vinyl, neoprene, plastic, etc. seals. Screws are so easy to use and work much better than nails. Here is a photo of my junk box. The little screws all seem to sift there way to the bottom leaving the large ones on top. 1000s of different screw here, you won't believe how many 100s of trips to the hardware store this junk box has saved me. I also have storage shelves of new in the box screws. Maybe this is not the best example of screws. Go to Fastenal.com or WW Granger or McMaster Carr or MSC industrial tools look at all the 1000s of screws. I suggest #6, 3/4" long, Phillips Pan head, metal screws.  |
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 4, 2015 7:55:58 GMT -8
For installation of twisty nails I take the time to drill a small pilot hole and then use the Air Palm Nailer to insert them. It works great, doesn't really take that much time and I am able to keep the original vintage look that the trailer was built with in the beginning.
Here are a couple of videos on the technique.
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Post by davek on Dec 4, 2015 16:07:07 GMT -8
I got a palm nailer and it has worked great so far. What size pilot hole do you drill?
I think I can only get the really big head nails in aluminum so that will add a level of complexity to installing them. Hopefully the palm nailer will still work. Will spend some time nailing into scrap ply befoe I start on the trailer.
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 4, 2015 17:02:20 GMT -8
I got a palm nailer and it has worked great so far. What size pilot hole do you drill? I think I can only get the really big head nails in aluminum so that will add a level of complexity to installing them. Hopefully the palm nailer will still work. Will spend some time nailing into scrap ply befoe I start on the trailer. I only use a bit large enough to be able to stick the twist nail in and make it stay there. This is because of the rounded heads which don't allow for the magnetic collar on the air nailer to hold them straight. And I only drill about a quarter inch deep at most. You still want the nail to grab. So the bit size is just a tiny bit smaller than the diameter of the nail itself. I think you will find that it works great. As shown in the video you want to make sure you only use enough pressure for the nailer to work properly. Too much and it can get away from you. With practice you can make that nailer wack the nail once, twice or how ever many times you want it to instead of it going full auto on you. |
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Post by davek on Dec 13, 2015 21:03:56 GMT -8
Finally got the courage to put the aluminum twist nails in.  Found that the palm nailer would mar paint (nailing into a test piece)so I used a piece of paper to protect the paint from the palm nailer.   Actually used two hands with the nail and found that I had to be very careful to keep the nailer centered because there is a sharp edge inside the nailer that mars the nails if it catches. |
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