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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 19:11:06 GMT -8
Boy I wish these were staples. But nope. Nails. How do you all propose removing them effectively without bending the edge of the skin? This photo was under the j rail and is the rear skin wrapping around the corner. Thanks friends.
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Post by nccamper on Nov 15, 2015 20:14:34 GMT -8
I use a very, very small pry bar to get under the wrap around roof metal and pry up slightly to grab the nail head.
I pry slightly forward so as not to put pressure on the exposed wall skin. You just want it loose enough to grab the nail head with needle nose or the pliers Mobiltec recommended...which I like a lot...and I can't remember the name.
Does that make sense?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 20:19:58 GMT -8
Hello nccamper how's it going, thanks for the response, you know what I don't have those pliers yet I believe I have to order some online unless you know what store has them? Hadn't thought about using them for the nail removal, not a bad thought. So pry outward, sounds good to me certainly does make sense.
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Post by nccamper on Nov 15, 2015 20:41:35 GMT -8
I ordered them online but it's been a couple of years now. They're great for removing nails. Grab, twist, pull. Don't pry if it can be avoided.
Did you find them in Mobiltec's video?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 21:44:00 GMT -8
I bet they work great. Almost all the screws out but still a few stubborn ones. No I have not seem them in his videos. Seen several of them!
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Post by Ten on Nov 16, 2015 5:48:55 GMT -8
I have found that most of these nails will pop right out once you get the head lifted. Lifting it disturbs it enough to loosen the length of the nail from the wood. Many of them have come out by using a wide-blade scraper and pounding it in lightly beneath the fold of the skin and as close to the nail head as possible. I have long used a set of 6" vice grips for such occasions, also works good for stubborn screws.
Further note: A lot of the old rusted nails popped the heads completely off when I tried to push underneath them, and when this happens it is best to lift the aluminum and pull it through. This gives you more to grab hold of rather than trying to dig them out of the top layer of aluminum. New nails will often cover the hole, and if not, it is all under new putty anyway. When replacing the putty between the layers of skin, it may be quite necessary to seat it all back together using a hammer to tap it all in tight, so if there are small folds, pulls, and irregularities from taking it apart, it all works out when it goes back together.
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Post by danrhodes on Nov 16, 2015 6:17:09 GMT -8
I used a very thin blade screwdriver tapped under the nail head and twisted, then flush cut wire cutters to grab and pry the nail out. The cutters let you get under the nail when it's just barely lifted
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Post by SusieQ on Nov 16, 2015 6:42:06 GMT -8
I have a little pry bar, too. It even has a little hole in it for grabbing the nail head. I think it came from Lowe's and it's priceless. My favorite tool. Once I get it pried up, I sometimes grab it with channel locks. Yes, channel locks. The little grooves are great at getting a good bite on the nail head. This isn't exactly like mine but it's similiar, mine is not forked but forked is probably better. www.lowes.com/pd_117699-16878-62897___?productId=4777013&pl=1&Ntt=small+pry+bar+multi+tool
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 8:29:36 GMT -8
Well thanks you all those suggestions will surely help me! I have the tools you friends are referring to to so that will be great. Thanks SuzieQ for that photo.
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Post by joek on Nov 27, 2015 9:15:19 GMT -8
I found these types of wire strippers to be most effective for pulling those tiny nails. Wire Strippers
The tips are really sharp and super close to the end of the plier. This allows me, in most cases, to push in and grab hold of the nail head, then I wiggle a little and pull straight out. Does take some hand strength though. Also works well for twisty nails on the interior.
These can be easily found at Home Depot or Lowes, but look in the electrical section, not the regular tool department.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 18:14:40 GMT -8
Thank you joek! I actually have some that are similar to your description maybe not as sharp of tips but has helped greatly. Maybe I should get the ones you have spoken about.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 29, 2015 19:42:36 GMT -8
Home Depot sells a very small cat's paw that looks like a screw driver but with a cats paw at the end. I slip that under the skin to the nail and then pry up a bit. Then a small tap with a small hammer right next to the nail head will tap the skin down enough to expose the head which can now be grabbed by a pair of normal pliers and pulled out.
The thing they are talking about is a screw removal tool. The mouth is too big for these nail heads. I've pulled thousands and thousands of those. I have bad dreams about pulling them and wake up screaming in the night "THERE MUST BE AN EASIER WAY!"...
Oh I'm ok now...
Im pretty sure I show this process in more than one video...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 17:48:56 GMT -8
No no there's no way you have meltdowns! Thank you mobiltec I can see the cats paw working good as well thanks for telling me.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 30, 2015 18:41:20 GMT -8
No no there's no way you have meltdowns! Thank you mobiltec I can see the cats paw working good as well thanks for telling me. I use an air stapler to put it back though. What ever you do, as much as I like Harbor Freight, one tool to stay away from is their air staplers. I went through two of them just to make sure it wasn't just a bad one in the lot. They both failed within a few hours. When you are trying to save time there is nothing worse than a tool that is always jamming. Get a good 1/4 inch stapler that will handle up to at least one inch long staples. They are called Crown Staples actually. Remember you only have to remove the old nails once. It's all down hill from there. So take your time and don't hurt the aluminum.
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Post by Tuneafish on Nov 30, 2015 21:03:01 GMT -8
To remove the nails on our project, I first used a thin scraper to gently pry the roof overlap away from the siding. I then used a multitool with a thin metal-cutting blade to cut the nails between the overlapped metal. It was really fast and there was little chance of damaging the metal. I gave up on the cats paw after pulling the heads off of several rusty nails.
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