John Palmer
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Post by John Palmer on May 5, 2015 8:14:19 GMT -8
Am I the only one who hates the welting? I'm hoping to get away with just tiny quarter round where the walls meet the ceiling, to match the flat trim covering the ceiling joints. On the floor, I just think it looks weird and will collect dirt. The welting was original to the trailer, like it or not.
It covers the unavoidable small gaps between the various parts.
A "restored" stick and tin trailer "without" welting scream's to me, that the panels were replaced (incorrectly) from the inside.
Quarter round holding up paneling looks like a Band Aid repair!
Using quarter round is a shortcut, quick fix to the correct procedure.
If you choose to restore it as originally done, it will look better, and have a higher resale value in the end.
All of the above comments are directed to the stick and tin type construction trailers. My 1948 Spartan, is a riveted skin type trailer, and the panels were installed originally from the inside. The corners have a "cove type" quarter round covering the seam, which is very hard to replace because, it has to be steamed and bent in the against the grain direction.
I LOVE welting!
LOL
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Post by danrhodes on May 5, 2015 8:22:20 GMT -8
Am I the only one who hates the welting? I'm hoping to get away with just tiny quarter round where the walls meet the ceiling, to match the flat trim covering the ceiling joints. On the floor, I just think it looks weird and will collect dirt. The welting was original to the trailer, like it or not.
It covers the unavoidable small gaps between the various parts.
A "restored" stick and tin trailer "without" welting scream's to me, that the panels were replaced (incorrectly) from the inside.
Quarter round holding up paneling looks like a Band Aid repair!
Using quarter round is a shortcut, quick fix to the correct procedure.
If you choose to restore it as originally done, it will look better, and have a higher resale value in the end.
All of the above comments are directed to the stick and tin type construction trailers. My 1948 Spartan, is a riveted skin type trailer, and the panels were installed originally from the inside. The corners have a "cove type" quarter round covering the seam, which is very hard to replace because, it has to be steamed and bent in the against the grain direction.
I LOVE welting!
LOL
Darn. It's like Julia Child telling me I can't use margarine instead of butter.
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John Palmer
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Post by John Palmer on May 5, 2015 8:33:35 GMT -8
The welting was original to the trailer, like it or not.
It covers the unavoidable small gaps between the various parts.
A "restored" stick and tin trailer "without" welting scream's to me, that the panels were replaced (incorrectly) from the inside.
Quarter round holding up paneling looks like a Band Aid repair!
Using quarter round is a shortcut, quick fix to the correct procedure.
If you choose to restore it as originally done, it will look better, and have a higher resale value in the end.
All of the above comments are directed to the stick and tin type construction trailers. My 1948 Spartan, is a riveted skin type trailer, and the panels were installed originally from the inside. The corners have a "cove type" quarter round covering the seam, which is very hard to replace because, it has to be steamed and bent in the against the grain direction.
I LOVE welting!
LOL
Darn. It's like Julia Child telling me I can't use margarine instead of butter. Dan, That's a good one, CLASSIC!
LOL
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Post by vikx on May 5, 2015 10:52:22 GMT -8
I really like welting in my canned hams. Oddly, I like it a bit larger than original and white... Really sets the curve and cabinets apart, especially if it is carried over to the upholstery.
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Post by SusieQ on May 5, 2015 11:38:15 GMT -8
I like the welting between the cabinets and walls but I have to agree with danrhodes that on the floor it collects dirt.
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Post by lakewoodgirl on May 5, 2015 12:45:05 GMT -8
That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure I wasn't missing the boat on something important. Thanks for your clarification. Speaking of boats... You can check out marine supply places too! Or, classic car restoration shops. They call them fenderwelts.
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Post by RinTin on May 5, 2015 13:49:45 GMT -8
The corners have a "cove type" quarter round covering the seam, which is very hard to replace because, it has to be steamed and bent in the against the grain direction.
I LOVE welting!
LOL
You will LOVE steam bending John. Make your own moulding with correct wood grain orientation and you will only break about half of them, LOL. Which reminds me, as I'm sure you know, not only were aircraft manufacturers building trailers, but boat manufacturers were in on the action too. I recall seeing old ads from some of them touting their steam bent construction. In fact, to bring this post full circle, weren't Lakewood's built by a boat manufacturer, hence the routed anchor panels? I'm sure lakewoodgirl can tell us more.
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Post by lakewoodgirl on May 5, 2015 18:43:30 GMT -8
All I can find on the founder of Lakewood is via ancestry.com. Yes, I've gone that far since I can't find a single brochure or ad on the company. On his WW2 enlistment record his Civil Occupation: "Semiskilled occupations in mechanical treatment of metals (rolling, stamping, forging, pressing, etc.)"
His father was a Boiler Maker and in 1952 his parents lived in Lakewood, CA.
Lakewood Industries was founded in 1953 I believe. Perhaps the name of the trailer was derived from the city of Lakewood.
Lakewood later started building mobile homes and I believe abandoned the travel trailer business.
I know a bit more but I won't bore you all with my mad investigative skills. LOL
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Post by barefootonthefarm on May 25, 2015 17:27:13 GMT -8
Susie, What will you use to make your Welting?
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Post by SusieQ on May 25, 2015 21:29:24 GMT -8
Susie, What will you use to make your Welting? Not exactly sure but I was thinking about outdoor upholstery fabric like a canvas/duck cloth. You can buy plastic (nylon) cording, but I like using the rope cording. The canvas comes in several colors and it could even be painted. The original welting in my trailer reminds me of canvas and had something like a jute cording and it was shellacked over. I would cut the canvas on the bias for the welting so it bends around curves nicely. One down side to this would be that it ravels but that can be remedied, too. One of our members used vinyl table cloth material but I don't know how that worked out for them. The marine welting is vinyl and comes in several colors, too.
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Post by vikx on May 25, 2015 21:40:53 GMT -8
I made welting out of vinyl from Walmart. It is thicker than tablecloth material, easy to work with. I like rope too, about 3/16, because it ends up a little smaller than you'd expect. Do a couple of test runs as SusieQ described. Who knows, you might discover the perfect welting!
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Post by SusieQ on May 25, 2015 21:47:58 GMT -8
I once bought 12 yards of thin waterproof vinyl in the $1.00 yd clearance bin at Walmart. I have used that stuff for so many things and I'm so sad that I don't have more. One advantage to the vinyl is that it would not ravel. Our Walmart doesn't carry any vinyl now. They used to have it on rolls.
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Post by barefootonthefarm on May 26, 2015 18:09:40 GMT -8
Susie, Vikx, Did you put a cord inside of the vinyl like you would do with upholstery?
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Post by barefootonthefarm on May 26, 2015 18:13:19 GMT -8
Ok, sorry, I didn't read far enough up. Mine does seem to be a fabric with a cord inside. I sew so it would be fairly easy and way cheaper to make some. I just hate cutting bias strips! no bias needed on the vinyl. I'll have to see what I can find.
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Post by SusieQ on May 26, 2015 18:19:11 GMT -8
Ok, sorry, I didn't read far enough up. Mine does seem to be a fabric with a cord inside. I sew so it would be fairly easy and way cheaper to make some. I just hate cutting bias strips! no bias needed on the vinyl. I'll have to see what I can find. You could try cutting it with the grain; it might be perfectly fine because you won't be turning sharp corners like on a cushion. If you do use fabric, be sure it's an outdoor fabric that will stand UV, sun. Thin some Elmer's school glue with water and paint the edges to keep them from raveling Or you can buy expensive ravel stop or zig zag or go just go with the vinyl.
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