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Post by vikx on May 4, 2015 10:24:55 GMT -8
Hi Gang, I'm posting this in The Hunt to start a detailed discussion on the type of repairs needed and work involved: seattle.craigslist.org/skc/rvs/5007286616.htmlThis is a cool little trailer. Any suggestions on repairs? With a fiberglass roof/rear body, are repairs necessary from the inside? Guessing the roof has to stay in place. Would it need boat type repairs? A new gel coat or whatever? A shame they gutted it. Appears to be missing all the little parts and pieces. What a MESS.
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Post by chametzoo on May 4, 2015 12:10:01 GMT -8
Cabin framing looks reasonably good. Maybe reenforce a bit here and there. Fiberglass and skin look serviceable. I see no indication of the condition of the platform though.
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Post by John Palmer on May 4, 2015 12:19:47 GMT -8
That trailer has very little, to no value.
The missing small parts will exceed the cost of the trailer to locate and purchase.
The worse part, is that the trailer will need extensive interior bracing to make it safe for the new owner to tow home. If it's towed very far (say over 50 miles) in this disassembled condition, it's going to fall apart on the road, IMO.
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Post by mobiltec on May 4, 2015 12:59:19 GMT -8
Here's a copy of my email to the seller...
"Ready to restore? LOL. You completely ruined the trailer by gutting it. That's not how it's done. I wouldn't give you $10 for it. Obviously you realize that you screwed up and now want to dump your piece of junk on some poor unsuspecting victim. Why not take your losses and call it a day rather than hurt someone else? it would be the right thing to do."
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Post by Ten on May 4, 2015 13:10:42 GMT -8
First thing I see is too many digits on the left side of the decimal point. there is NO WAY this is worth anywhere near that much asking price in its current state. The trained eye will see two things right away... Gutted, even as messy as that looks, it is not so bad as it may seem. However even in that light, it still has to be disassembled to be put back together properly. The second is that it sure should not be towed....although I bet Soup could get this one home! I would not leave the driveway on wheels, but rather load it on a haul trailer to get it home. It will still need some cheater bracing to make sure it doesn't blow over or cave in. The framing that shows seems in good shape and should make a good template for putting it back together. There is always the draw of a "blank palette" to customize however you want, but the trouble is that is the ONLY choice with this. If you set out to do it your own way, then chasing the parts becomes a lot less stressful, as whatever suits your taste will fit. For instance, this appeared on CL today...I have never seen this before: rochester.craigslist.org/rvs/5008125045.htmlAll that being said, there is at least $500-$800 to look forward to just in tires, brakes, axles, propane system parts, sealing windows and vents, and then the cost of cushions and decorating just to throw salt in the wounds.
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Post by vintagebruce on May 4, 2015 16:12:21 GMT -8
lol. The Rochester dinette has already been sold. What the heck, vikx I'll just piggyback on your thread here. mobiltec...do you want to send this seller a copy of the e-mail you sent to the Kenskill seller? inlandempire.craigslist.org/rvs/5006868007.htmlWould this be considered smearing lipstick on your gut?
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Post by Hamlet on May 4, 2015 16:42:35 GMT -8
First one - Oh dear! If the only real difference is that the skin is fiberglass, it'll have to come off anyway since they're built from the outside in. And I wonder what a new gel coat would set you back. I think it'd be hard to justify this one unless the decimal was moved to the left a notch.
Second one - Holy mother of porcupines! No floor? It's the same size as a Compact, so there's a few possibilities there, but heck, the safest thing to do with this one would be to take the skin off, the frame off the chassis, stack them neatly on a flatbed and haul them away.
Sigh.
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Post by mobiltec on May 4, 2015 17:03:05 GMT -8
That's the absolute best example of the word "GUTTED" that I have ever seen! Kudos to the owner for such a great job! Agreed, that i wouldn't want to tow it home that way for more than maybe 5 miles on smooth roads. With no interior, aftermarket tail lamps and no title to tell what it is, I would give them $300. I could use the windows and the frame. I wouldn't want to rebuild this not knowing what it is..
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Post by vikx on May 4, 2015 21:09:04 GMT -8
How would a person go about getting the fiberglass roof off? Will it come off intact? Possible? Impossible?
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Post by Ten on May 5, 2015 4:15:02 GMT -8
My vote would be "impossible"...even if it is tacked down in some conventional manner (staples, nails, twisty nails) lifting it is going to put stress in places it's never been stressed. It may roll right off just to prove me wrong, but lifting it back on may prove disastrous.
My first impression was that this would be a fun one to remodel and put it structurally sound, because of the unique feature of the fiberglass. But the more I look at what would be involved, it may well be better served using it as a storage shed.
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Post by RinTin on May 5, 2015 10:26:51 GMT -8
How would a person go about getting the fiberglass roof off? Will it come off intact? Possible? Impossible? A few years ago I read a book about the how fiberglass changed the boating industry. Fiberglass was still a fairly recent technology in the early 60's. Boats at that time were laid up very heavily compared to today. I would assume this practice carried over into other applications. As they aged and with exposure to the sun, the old gel coat resins had a tendency to craze and develop spiderweb cracking. It looks like the rear end and roof are two different pieces. You can see reinforcing ribs incorporated into the roof. The glass sections would have been laid up in a mold and later attached to the trailer body. If you can cleanly separate the fiberglass sections, and if the fiberglass sections are undamaged, they should come off intact. I would bet they are very stiff and somewhat heavy. How would you go about doing that? As you know, it would depend on how they are attached.
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Post by vikx on May 5, 2015 10:56:58 GMT -8
Thanks for the roof info.
I'm guessing a person could lift the roof with a frame. A pulleys and ropes to the rafters sort of thing... A lot of tedious work to save old fiberglass. Still, cool shape.
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Post by RinTin on May 5, 2015 13:57:46 GMT -8
I bet two people could just lift it up and walk it out over the end of the trailer. It should be very rigid.
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Post by SusieQ on May 5, 2015 19:25:37 GMT -8
So, I've just been listening until now. There are two kinds of fiberglass trailers and this roof appears to be molded fiberglass which is one piece. If you look at it from the inside roof, you can see that it appears to be very thin in some places. It would probably crack or break when you lifted it off. I think the best way would be to detach it and lift it straight up, like some people suspend their roofs. Fiberglass can be repaired and is not difficult for someone with experience. Also, gel coat that is in reasonably good condition can be polished (not saying this one is "good"). And gel coat is really no harder to do than paint. But you could always replace it with an aluminum. The real challenge would be getting it back on because if you were off at all with any repairs, it would not fit. It would be easier to repair in place if the framing is good. Which brings me to my next question, since it is gutted, are you sure the panels in this one were put on from the inside out or were they just attached to the framing? I can't tell from the pics; you can usually see remnants of the paneling under the rafters.
And 800 is a ridiculous price for a totally gutted trailer. It would have to be a "make it your own" trailer which in my mind is not vintage.
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Post by vintagebruce on May 10, 2015 6:45:49 GMT -8
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