milesboyer
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Post by milesboyer on Jan 10, 2015 12:53:07 GMT -8
I've been keeping an eye out for a project camper lately. Of course I've been checking Craigslist, but I've also been keeping an eye out for roadside and backyard treasures. After driving an hour to check out something else this morning, I spotted this on my way home in a backyard less than 1 mile from my house. The owner is an older man and recent widower. He was a super nice guy and seemed happy just to have someone to talk to. Today was even his birthday. When we first started talking, he thought I was interested in the newer Nomad that he also had in his backyard. At any rate, he didn't know why anyone would be interested in his pile of scrap, but he was willing to part with this for $100. After a bit of research, I'm guessing it is a 69 15' Hilander. The skin is in decent shape. A few dents scattered around and some damage on the corners, but nothing too terrible. Some tar on the roof seam, but still not too bad. There is extensive rot. Pretty much all of the paneling and framing would need to be replaced. I'm still torn on what kind of project I want. This is certainly more work than I was originally planning on. However, it is a lot less money to get started. I'm pretty handy. I've tackled nearly every type of home improvement project you can think of. I've also had (and worked on) a few older campers in the past, so I'm familiar with how they are put together. I've also got some experience with restoring old cars. Even if I spent $100 bucks on it and decided it was more than I could handle, I think I'd be able to sell it to someone who had more motivation. (I'd still feel good about rescuing it from the scrap heap.) What are your thoughts. Here is a link to some (pretty lousy) pictures: www.milesboyer.com/Other/Serro-Scotty-Sportsman/n-SGkqw/Thanks for any input. Miles
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Post by RJ on Jan 10, 2015 13:52:10 GMT -8
I saw a wall heater, sink/faucets, hole where fridge used to be. Does it have a stove (didn't see it)? For that cool old body shape, 100 bones is easily worth the price of admission "if" you go into it eyes open so to speak. That old girl will require a complete, down to the dirt, restore I'm speculating (in my novice opinion). Why the heck not! Skins seem allright, interior cabinents, etc., seem like they're at least present so you have a template to rebuild. Option two as you mentioned, would be to take it home, clean it up, and sell it. Good luck in whatever you decide to do (I wouldn't just leave it setting there if the old boy is willing to let it go... wink, wink). RJ
Oh, and welcome to the forum!
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Post by Ten on Jan 10, 2015 16:11:21 GMT -8
I am with RJ on this one...get it home and ask questions later. This is one that, as mentioned, you need "eyes wide open"...The hundred up front is not going to translate into some sort of huge bargain in the longest run. It really will be a total rebuild to restore it. These were made with tin-over-plywood walls so there is no stick framing. It is a bit different sort of rebuild. Those upper windows were notorious for leaking and destroying everything from there down. The interior indicates exactly what one should expect for this...it has some original templates that need restructuring, some panels that need replacin', and some parts that need scouting...It also lends itself nicely to guiding you to a layout that works but leaves room for modernizing it for your own taste. All that being said, the Scottys are quite desirable among them that love 'em. The Highlander and the Sportsman are both pretty cool units. I would be willing to bet that you could have this re-sold before you could tow it home, if you decided you don't want the project yourself. On another note that is a cool old Chevy next to it, about late 70's with a mid-60's cap. My Dad had one of those camper toppers on an old Ford he had once. It was nearly as heavy as the whole truck. It had crank-out windows, headroom enough to sit in the truck bed in a lawn chair, and I think it was aluminum-over-brick-and-mortar construction....
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Post by ladywendolyn on Jan 10, 2015 17:07:34 GMT -8
I think the big question (since your willing to do the work) .. Do you like the style?
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Post by milesboyer on Jan 10, 2015 17:44:29 GMT -8
RJ- Yes, there is a stove, but no fridge. I was hoping for an oven (mainly because they look cool.) I think I have access to one for free.
Ten- I do agree that it won't be a bargain, but I'll still consider myself at least $500 ahead. The other campers I've been seeing are priced around $800 and they'd still need nearly a full rebuild.
Ladywendolyn- Yes, I love the style. When I first saw if from the street, I could only see the back. When I came around to the back yard, I absolutely fell in love with the front skylights. (even though I quickly realized they'd likely be a constant water issue.)
Thanks for the input. I'll likely try to bring it home tomorrow.
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 10, 2015 20:48:53 GMT -8
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Post by vikx on Jan 10, 2015 22:50:55 GMT -8
Man, the Nomad isn't bad either!! This guy has treasures to me. Love the truck.
Read up on Scotties as Larry suggested. They are different to build with plywood walls. The frame might need some repair and some Scotty owners like to add a new axle with adjustable height.
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Post by kirkadie on Jan 11, 2015 6:27:56 GMT -8
I'm guessing it's a '71 or '72. My '69 had the nasty blue spatter paint inside, first year for the rectangular windows forward. Here's a history; www.nationalserroscotty.org/history/Buy it, sell the rock guard and get your $100 back. Looks like lotsa good stuff remains, plus, you'll get to experience the heralded 'frame off'...
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Post by milesboyer on Jan 11, 2015 15:41:49 GMT -8
Kirkadie- Good eye on the paint vs woodgrain paneling. I had checked that resource, but somehow overlooked that. Either way, it is sitting in my driveway now. I managed to find the VIN under lots of paint, and I now see that it is a '71. I took an air compressor and a few tools to pick it up today. Tires aired right up and held long enough for the 1 mile drive home. Of course I didn't even bother checking the bearings for such a short trip, but I will. She made it home in one piece. I've already cleaned a pickup load of trash and debris out of it. I also scrubbed the lichens and mildew off one side. What a difference! The owner originally told me he'd take $100. Today he said I could just take it for free. If he can find the title, he'll take the $100. Sounds like a good deal to me. Now to determine whether or not to keep her. While I was picking her up today, I noticed 2 more vintage campers sitting in the neighbor's back yard. Both of them under sheds. One was too big for my taste, so I didn't even investigate. The other was a Mid-Jet. I peeked inside, and all of the paneling seemed pretty good at first glance. The fact that it is under roof leads me to believe it would be in better shape than the Scotty that has been sitting out for at least the last 30 years. I didn't have my camera with me, so I don't have any pictures. I knocked on the door, but they weren't home. I looked their number up and left a message though. On the subject of hunting- I need to be careful before I have a wreck. I can't stop myself from peeking into backyards as I drive around. I even make myself carsick whipping my head back and forth while I'm driving. I seem to be pretty good at knowing the types of neighborhoods to look in. I spotted 2 more on my way home from church this morning. I could see someone flipping these by finding them in backyards, getting them for cheap, cleaning, or doing minor repairs to make them towable, and them posting to Craigslist as a project camper. I wouldn't feel too guilty about doing this since I'd likely be saving them from eventual scrap, and I'd make sure that I was upfront in selling them as a project camper. (rather than a lipstick restore) Anyway, here is a better picture of the Scotty in my driveway.
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 11, 2015 19:00:58 GMT -8
I only flip the larger ones but you have discovered my secret on how I obtain trailers. LOL no big secret being that I publicize how I do it. I have yet to buy a trailer off Craigs List or Ebay. Congrats and good job!
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Post by vikx on Jan 11, 2015 22:42:23 GMT -8
Milesboyer, 3 posts and we discover you have been addicted for a while... Welcome to the madd club!
I recommend our 12 step program, the first of which is Check Craigslist multiple times a day...
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 12, 2015 7:25:14 GMT -8
Actually, our program only consists of one step. You will be too busy for the other 11... God grant me the strength to restore the trailers I can, The courage to strip the parts off the ones I can't, And the wisdom to know the difference...
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