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Post by schweetcruisers on Jun 23, 2014 19:27:29 GMT -8
here's the link the Vintage Camper Trailers Facebook album for my trailer, just read some of the dumb comments. www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.756508741057397.1073742528.128986567142954&type=3All I know is- A) a fool and their money are easily parted(most of the comments I fear are from SoCal people that so desperate for a trailer they'll pay anything, or someone who paid too much for their own trailer and need to justify it by inflating others) B) Vintage Camper Trailer Rag, does/has done too much damage to the hobby and is responsible for the prices we are seeing...I will not be renewing my subscription. C) People are stupid
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 23, 2014 19:42:27 GMT -8
The only trailers that are over priced are the ones that are being advertised for sale... I don't find my trailers on CL or Ebay. Although I have gone and looked at a few and I'm sure that one day I may find a great deal there. But buying something from a person who thinks they are holding an item that is rare will never get you that good deal you are looking for. Find the trailer that no one has paid any attention to for the last 20 years. That is your deal.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Jun 23, 2014 19:52:58 GMT -8
The only trailers that are over priced are the ones that are being advertised for sale... I don't find my trailers on CL or Ebay. Although I have gone and looked at a few and I'm sure that one day I may find a great deal there. But buying something from a person who thinks they are holding an item that is rare will never get you that good deal you are looking for. Find the trailer that no one has paid any attention to for the last 20 years. That is your deal. The problem I see is we are going start seeing "restored" trailers that lost their luster for sale, and now are going to need more work then when they were derelicts due to improper repairs. How much does it cost to replace a painted interior? ...thousands!
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 24, 2014 6:25:48 GMT -8
The only trailers that are over priced are the ones that are being advertised for sale... I don't find my trailers on CL or Ebay. Although I have gone and looked at a few and I'm sure that one day I may find a great deal there. But buying something from a person who thinks they are holding an item that is rare will never get you that good deal you are looking for. Find the trailer that no one has paid any attention to for the last 20 years. That is your deal. The problem I see is we are going start seeing "restored" trailers that lost their luster for sale, and now are going to need more work then when they were derelicts due to improper repairs. How much does it cost to replace a painted interior? ...thousands! Here's one like you are talking about and the guy is having a hard time getting $1900 for it. 54 Dalton would be worth thousands more if it was not painted inside. inlandempire.craigslist.org/rvs/4531585238.html
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Post by ladywendolyn on Jun 24, 2014 8:19:08 GMT -8
You can definitely see two kinds of people in the vintage trailer world. Those who want to restore things as original as possible. And thousands of people who are joining into a fad. You are right Mobletec.. Those people will ruin lots of old campers, and after their quick fix paint job leave them in the dust when they realize they leak. I think it's up to the leaders of the movement to set the bar high and establish standards of finish and restoration. I think that many of you do that with excellence and that this site is a bit like a historical society in a town that works to preserve old buildings. I don't begrudge anyone their pink painted Glamper... I just feel sorry for them when it starts leaking and all their paint turns brown.
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Post by bigbill on Jun 24, 2014 12:35:37 GMT -8
I personally think whither you shellac or paint your trailer pink with yellow polka dots is a personal choice. The thing that I want people to do is take the time to make there trailer safe and dependable for years to come. Just because someone shellaced the insides doesn't mean they repaired the entire frame work and sealed all the seams. I caution everyone to inspect the trailer very closely before spending a dime on it no matter how good it looks on the surface. There are people out there that are masters at making a car, truck, or trailer look like new on the surface but do not repair the things that are important. Today's world has more quick fix cover-up materials available than ever. Also people in different parts of the US and Canada will find different problems do to the difference in climates so if you travel across the continent to by your trailer research the problems you might expect from that area. Hot dry areas cause different problems than cold areas with three foot of snow, so be aware. Coming back to paint or shellac I know people that think shellac is the ugliest thing they have ever seen and they love bright painted colors, then I know people that love natural wood finishes. Some people are Glampers and some people aren't but again the important thing is repair the entire trailer so that you wind up with a safe, dependable, trailer that can be towed anyplace and last for another 50 or 60 years. How cool would it be if your grandchildren or even you great grandchildren could pull it into a campground on its 100th birthday and tell people my family restored this about 50 years ago and it is still like new. You think you get attention now, think about it.
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 24, 2014 19:22:22 GMT -8
It's just the purist in me. When someone says this trailer has been "restored" it better look original in every way. If the trailer came painted inside then paint it. But if it was birch or maple or ash, it better be shellacked or it hasn't been "restored"... Like you Bill I don't care if someone wants to paint their trailer like a tractor.... I just won't buy one that's all.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Aug 21, 2014 12:18:02 GMT -8
I started pulling the Kenskill apart today. I found more mouse nest/poop, but less rot then I was expecting. Skirt boards are in great shape, only a few areas of decay. No surprise there is rot in the rear trunk area, Here was a big surprise, Kenskill used partical board to form the fin, but no surprise it's rotted Now here is something I wasn't expecting, a belly pan . It's not a belly pan like a Airstream has, but a belly pan never the less. It's has a layer of Celotex sound board, then the 2x and insulation and then the plywood floor. Now the plan was never to take this down to the metal frame, it's just in too good of shape. But I not keen on the idea of leaving the belly pan especially given the rodent infection this thing has had in the past. Any ideas?
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Post by vikx on Aug 21, 2014 22:47:47 GMT -8
Schweet, take your time. Clean all the "crap" out and take some very serious looks. Belly pans are not all bad (protect from debris) and can be, how would you say, "drained". I've drilled 1/4 holes to facilitate such...
Get it bare and it will tell you what's needed. We are here for you with advice and know it allness.
Oh, and bleach.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Sept 25, 2014 19:44:37 GMT -8
I ordered all my window seals today, for the record big trailers=big money, I needed 150ft of the Jalousie glass seal. Thank goodness that seal is one of the less expensive ones. I also needed 50 ft of backframe gasket, that one hurt!
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 26, 2014 20:22:02 GMT -8
I feel your pain Schweet... I go through a lot of back frame gasket and it's pricey. I try not to waste even an inch and always end up with a 7 inch piece at the end. Then add the glass seal for push outs and it's really starting to add up. I don't know what to say about the belly pan. Looks like a rodent hotel to me. But then again you are in an area where it snows a lot and I imagine they salt? Us So Cal people aren't used to any kind of weather. Not even rain now it seems.
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Post by Hamlet on Sept 27, 2014 7:25:40 GMT -8
It's gorgeous, Schweet. I'm thinking it'd look great being pulled by a '59 Ford green and white Ranch Wagon. We understand about the bathroom.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Nov 18, 2014 18:05:47 GMT -8
Edge board anyone? When you all complain about having to do a 3/4" edge board on your Shasta, think back to this, yes that is a 2 3/4" thick laminated edge board.
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Post by schweetcruisers on Dec 20, 2014 14:09:23 GMT -8
Success...After a little research and thought I able to salvage the old Formica Laminate from the Kenskill. It was one of the original features that drew us to the trailer, after we got the trailer home and seeing how the counter top was integrated into the cabinet plus I noticed a crack in the laminate, I thought I was going to scrap the whole thing. I remember watching a "Ask This Old House" episode where they repaired a laminate counter that was missing a piece, I figured I could use their technique to safely remove the laminate on my trailer. It worked, the only thing I did differently is I used a heat gun instead of a iron.
Ask This Old House Video
It's really dirty so it does not look great in the pictures
The Camera does not convey how awesome this pattern actually is, plus it's pretty dirty in the pictures, Its a butter yellow with gold and silver stripes
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Post by schweetcruisers on Jan 19, 2015 12:10:02 GMT -8
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