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Post by kwaggs on Mar 12, 2014 17:58:02 GMT -8
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Post by pirateslife on Mar 12, 2014 18:27:17 GMT -8
Did the ceiling drop? Looks like something has moved and let the metal drop.
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Post by John Palmer on Mar 12, 2014 19:31:41 GMT -8
On a "stick and tin" type trailer, it's built from the "paneling out". The aluminum skin only covers the skeletal framing behind it. It's why the recommended way to repair this type is to remove the skin first, then repair the framing, then the skin goes on last.
If you removed all of the bones out of your leg, chances are your skin would sag also.
Have you found any rot in any of the side wall supports? It's likely that the skin is fine, and the walls have sagged, it's just my guess.
Sorry, but if it was easy, everyone would do it.
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Post by vikx on Mar 12, 2014 22:32:00 GMT -8
I agree with John. Also, it looks as if the edge wood or "curbing" as Mobil would say, is missing. Take a look at this build and get back to us: 56aljo.shutterfly.com/picturesOrder of Build: walls are erected, then front/ceiling/rear panels on the top, rafters and cross boards. The edge boards are in between each rafter. The skin is actually bigger than the walls by about 7/8 of an inch, depending on ceiling panel thickness. |
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Post by ladywendolyn on Mar 13, 2014 1:27:44 GMT -8
I have the same issue on my trailer. The front edge has separated from the frame. Our plan is to remove the skin, and rebuild what's missing or let go. I am interested in how you experienced guys attached the new framing to the old. Did you use nails, glue, screws?
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Post by kwaggs on Mar 13, 2014 7:10:21 GMT -8
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Post by kwaggs on Mar 13, 2014 7:16:52 GMT -8
Take a look at my build blog that my wife started. Wagnersshasta.blogspot.com
I'm pretty sure the aluminum skin is to long. Not the rest of the wall being too short.
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Post by SusieQ on Mar 13, 2014 7:30:17 GMT -8
Didn't someone else have this problem?
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Post by mobiltec on Mar 13, 2014 8:20:53 GMT -8
I have the same issue on my trailer. The front edge has separated from the frame. Our plan is to remove the skin, and rebuild what's missing or let go. I am interested in how you experienced guys attached the new framing to the old. Did you use nails, glue, screws? Um... I have a couple of videos on the subject...
www.cannedhamtrailers.com
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Post by kwaggs on Mar 13, 2014 8:44:36 GMT -8
Mobiletec isn't that what is causing that gap is the side skin is too long and needs to be cut back to the belting?
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Post by mobiltec on Mar 13, 2014 10:07:39 GMT -8
That dang ash is always shrinking LOL...
This seems to be quite a common problem. At least more common than one would like but dealing with it is easy. You see me dealing with it both on the Forester in Colorado and the 57 Westerner. I don't know why so many trailers got through the production line without routing the edges down to the curbing but I've now run across this problem on at least 3 trailers. No biggie. Just take cut the metal down to the curbing and move on. This is another good reason for taking the skin off your trailer even if you don't seem to have any rot that you can see. |
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Post by kwaggs on Mar 13, 2014 11:42:44 GMT -8
Thanks Larry. You have been the main source of information with my restoration/rebuild. Your videos have been the utmost help with figuring out some of my problems, in regards to the camper ;-)
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Post by mobiltec on Mar 13, 2014 11:49:01 GMT -8
Thanks Larry. You have been the main source of information with my restoration/rebuild. Your videos have been the utmost help with figuring out some of my problems, in regards to the camper ;-) Well keep in mind that all I am doing is sharing my experiences with you all in hopes that you may learn from my mistakes and my good fortune of having been exposed to some real professionals. I am in no way what I consider to be a professional or else I would never make any mistakes during the process of restoring an old trailer. Also if I were a pro I would make money at this instead of using it as a write off LOL.. |
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Post by scoutandme on Mar 13, 2014 12:00:24 GMT -8
I agree with Pirate, Looks like the radius is off from the discoloration.. Maybe the skin or wall has dropped or the replacement framing is off.
You may want to check to make sure the frame is straight. both the L-cross member and the C-channel for the tongue.
I had simualar seperation on the floor. Once I got frame straight & floor level, the replacement curbing seem to fit like it should and I didn't need to trim. but I also didn't need to replace much framing or panneling.
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Post by soup on Mar 13, 2014 12:37:55 GMT -8
Keep in mind though before you cut ANY side wall metal back,
IMHO
It looks as though you still have interior wall panel to go up in back and also frame sticks that need to be added too before the exterior skin goes back on. Also bottom back of floor still gets a beveled cut stick that goes along the bottom on back edge of floor before rear skin goes back on also.
I wouldn't cut skin back (on Shastas not sure on yours) until the interior wall panel is up and wood framing is complete. Then the metal of the wall skins can be cut back if needed before installing the back skin.
Unless I'm reading your pics wrong, and if I am just ignore me like everyone should anyway!!
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