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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Jan 15, 2024 8:48:25 GMT -8
Newbie here - I know that the standard material for interior panelling is birch plywood. But what material do you commonly use for the face frame of cabinets?
Is it typically birch as well? I was thinking of using 1x2 white pine but it is rather soft.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Jan 15, 2024 17:20:35 GMT -8
My cabinets have a face frame. I don't know how else to explain it. The doors and drawers only partly cover the face of the cabinet box. I guess the right material would be birch to match the paneling/doors. These things were built cheaply so wondering if pine was sometimes substituted. Maybe a picture would help explain.
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Post by Teachndad on Jan 16, 2024 7:07:38 GMT -8
Here is a picture for aide in discussion. 
Someone with more experience can answer the question. Are you wanting to rebuild all the cabinets in the trailer? Rod |
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Jan 16, 2024 10:26:43 GMT -8
Thanks Rod! I am planning to rebuild all of the boxes. I'll likely refinish/reuse the doors and drawer.
I guess my main question is whether white pine with amber shellac will resemble the birch plywood or if it will look out of place.
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Post by Teachndad on Jan 16, 2024 11:38:24 GMT -8
For what it's worth here's just one feedback on the amber I can offer. I used it on one of my trailers for the entry door interior panel and it ended up being way more orange colored than I would have liked and that was even after making a sample. Others love amber. In retrospect, my sample was just too small. It could have been a lack of experience as well or user error, LOL.
Cheers,
Rod
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Post by vikx on Jan 16, 2024 11:52:16 GMT -8
I think the most important thing on finishes is that they all match. Pine strikes me as possibly absorbing differently than birch.
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Jan 16, 2024 13:14:32 GMT -8
Pine strikes me as possibly absorbing differently than birch. I agree. TY both - might be a good idea to pick up both amber and clear shellac and test on birch plywood and pine. See how they compare. Upon closer inspection I think they used a different finish on the face frames. It is cracking. Shellac wouldn't do that, right? It suggests they used pine or cheaper lumber and used a finish to make it match. |
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Post by vikx on Jan 16, 2024 13:19:40 GMT -8
There are several tests listed online to discover what finish was used. Some Shastas weren't shellacked and of course later 70s trailers had a faux finish. I use amber shellac because it is so forgiving and covers well. I didn't like clear because EVERY flaw shows.
Amber shellac definitely has an orange cast but looks great if the entire trailer is done.
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Jan 16, 2024 15:09:45 GMT -8
Duly noted. The quick/forgiving attributes are appealing!
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Post by tincanalley on Jan 17, 2024 17:21:23 GMT -8
Hey there.. I’m rebuilding alll my cabinets from scratch. Using solid birch for the face frames. Also planning to use inset drawers and doors ( no overlap). Here’s what the kitchen side cabs look like after 6 coats shellac, no drawers yet. Still working on the custom tall cabinet to house the fridge on the other side. All the best…  IMG_2299 by asmay22, on Flickr |
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Jan 17, 2024 21:04:37 GMT -8
Nice work tincanalley. That's looking great! I think I've determined I can go with cheaper and more readily available pine if I use stain. Birch would be preferable but I'm keeping to a modest budget/effort. |
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Post by jester76 on Feb 11, 2024 19:56:02 GMT -8
In my 54 Aljoa, my cabinets were built with a secondary wood and faced with a birch skin
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Feb 12, 2024 20:35:50 GMT -8
In my 54 Aljoa, my cabinets were built with a secondary wood and faced with a birch skin Hello Jester, funny enough, I just finished looking at your photos and noticed that same thing! I think that might be the best option for me. I'm going to have extra 1/8" birch plywood anyway. That's for chiming in, I appreciate it! |
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Post by jester76 on Feb 12, 2024 20:57:52 GMT -8
One thing i noticed afterwards is that, with the original cabinet, all the grain ran one direction. I ran mine like you wood if it were sticks of lumber, as you would typically build a cabinet. However, by doing this i created an almost two tone face frame because of how the light shine off the grain differently if it were laying horizontal vs vertical.
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Post by 1963astavillastamped on Feb 13, 2024 6:02:53 GMT -8
One thing i noticed afterwards is that, with the original cabinet, all the grain ran one direction. I ran mine like you wood if it were sticks of lumber, as you would typically build a cabinet. However, by doing this i created an almost two tone face frame because of how the light shine off the grain differently if it were laying horizontal vs vertical. I guess that's the kind of thing you only notice afterwards. I think it looks great either way. And by the way, the craftsmanship of your trailer is on another level. The face frame is such a small strip of material anyway. It's just nice that it blends in. I might be wise for me to use whole sheets because the plywood has such thin veneer. If I want to sand out any seams I might have trouble. |
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