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Post by PT on Apr 19, 2021 20:26:54 GMT -8
Been reading up on electric brakes since I'm getting close to dealing with them on my Holiday House.
When purchased a couple years ago I had the bearings repacked and at the time the brakes appeared to be in good condition though they were non functional and filthy.
IF, after inspection they are truly in good shape I was thinking of taking them apart and cleaning/lubricating everything etc. I know they will need to be rewired and tested and I'll be getting a new controller.
Major question would be can you get replacement shoes for vintage brakes? What other concerns should I have?
Thanks!
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Post by PT on Apr 23, 2021 18:23:21 GMT -8
So I put on my big boy pants and did a good bit of research. No - you cannot buy replacement brake shoes/magnets, etc. for old 1961 assemblies which means I will be buying new assemblies that will work with my current axle and drums.
I know there can be surprises with this approach but it seems to be doable. I believe the HH takes a 27" leaf spring as well - so after quadruple checking measurements I'll be getting new springs and installing them too :-).
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Post by vikx on Apr 23, 2021 18:53:01 GMT -8
Most new springs have to have the hangers adjusted to fit. Just sayin'...
Take some pix of your brake work. I'm interested in new parts in old brakes. I have a set of 57 drums/brakes in good condition with the round magnets. They're dusty but wiring looks good. Cost a fortune to ship. I'm North of Seattle.
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Post by Teachndad on Apr 25, 2021 5:27:17 GMT -8
PT,
Did you consider just replacing the whole set up? Spring, axle, brakes all in one package? I think Dexter sells the whole shibang for @ $400. Don't quote me on the price.
I haven't done this (yet?). It's just on option.
Rod
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Post by PT on Apr 26, 2021 8:01:13 GMT -8
Hey Rod -
If I find anything wrong with the drums/hubs or the bearings I will. I spoke with another HH owner and he was able to simply fit a new brake assembly to the original components and the new leaf springs fit the original spacing. I've read here that original components in good working order are probably better quality than the new stuff so I'm leaning toward if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Post by 57 Trotwood on Apr 28, 2021 8:42:06 GMT -8
Been reading up on electric brakes since I'm getting close to dealing with them on my Holiday House. When purchased a couple years ago I had the bearings repacked and at the time the brakes appeared to be in good condition though they were non functional and filthy. IF, after inspection they are truly in good shape I was thinking of taking them apart and cleaning/lubricating everything etc. I know they will need to be rewired and tested and I'll be getting a new controller. Major question would be can you get replacement shoes for vintage brakes? What other concerns should I have?Thanks! I have a 57 Trottwood. I dissassembled my axles, replaced the bearings, replaced the felt grease retainers, cleaned and tested the original brakes with a battery charger, they work great. Then I took the leaf springs all apart. Cleaned them and re installed with new bushings and shackles. I even made new bump stops from material the local spring shop had. Now my axles and brakes look NOS but they are original. If anyone has seen an axle on a trottwood they would say WTH. The springs are only on the back side of the axle. And the axle is only about a foot long on each side. They are held into an axle tube with a key that gets held on by a wire wrapped around the axle tube. Why re invent the axle.
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Post by idaho211 on May 1, 2021 6:08:34 GMT -8
I have a 1966 Kenskill and had a guy put new shoe linings on. I replaced all brake springs and found replacement grease seals. The drums and magnets were good. I have had good luck buying NOS magnets on Ebay. Saved me buying all new assemblies and fits good.
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Post by PT on May 10, 2021 18:57:29 GMT -8
It will come as a surprise to no one with the possible exception of myself that I'm getting a new axle, hubs and brake assemblies. It appears the other Holiday House owner I know either had a different axle/brake setup or had access to some mystical brake shop that was able to get his up and running. The best shops in Portland Oregon were stumped though they were impressed by the antique Warner brake system I showed them...
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Post by nccamper on May 12, 2021 3:50:46 GMT -8
Where will you buy the new suspension/brake package? How much will it cost?
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Post by PT on May 13, 2021 10:25:49 GMT -8
Bought from etrailer.com. As I get older I try to buy American made so went with Dexter. I probably could have saved a hundred bucks or more if I bought etrailer's Chinese offerings or even more if I drove into Portland to pick it up but that's four hours on the road. There will also be a welding charge since I could not find anything off the shelf that would fit. Tight space in the wheel wells and between a thicker axle and longer studs on the hubs I'm hoping the wheels fit without too much grief...
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Post by PT on May 16, 2021 12:43:36 GMT -8
Well this purchase is officially "poop canned". etrailer wont have the spindles in stock for 3+ months so looks like I'll be calling around and driving into Portland after all.... But - I might have found a stock axle that will fit so could be a good thing.
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Post by hammy on Jun 3, 2021 21:26:16 GMT -8
Etrailer is a strange website... prices and availability seem to fluctuate daily. I purchased the Dexter 10” 3.5k assemblies that you had shown a couple months ago for just over $100. A couple days before I purchased they were around $160. One of their staff members confirmed that prices and stock change very often
I would say just monitor their site and see if the prices or availability change. I’m very happy with my Dexter brakes, they function great and were a breeze to install
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