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Post by 57heaven on Sept 22, 2019 6:16:29 GMT -8
I have a 1957 Pathfinder that I just bought two weeks ago. There is no water damage to the roof and I want to keep it that way. I noticed some cracking in the existing roof sealant and I want to touch up the cracks and am looking for what you people recommend to do this? Didn't know if a tube type or brush on sealer is recommended or if it's just personal preference. Any help would be appreciated. IMG_20190915_145209282 by Bob Dombeck, on Flickr IMG_20190915_145216264 by Bob Dombeck, on Flickr
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Post by vikx on Sept 22, 2019 20:48:38 GMT -8
Most of us never use roof goop. Ever. Caulk and roof coatings will make things worse and can damage the roof metal.
What you have is "silver slop" and it is very difficult to remove. Peel back all that is loose and sand what remains to feather the edges.
The vent pictured needs to be removed and re-puttied. Try to get most of the cement-like slop off the vent area before you do this. New putty is your main defense against leakage. If the skin around the vent opening has splits, staples or cracks, OSI gutter seal (Lowes in a tube) applied sparingly to each flaw will help. Do not goop and smooth with a paint thinner dipped finger. This is done before you install the vent. In fact, I recommend installing a Fantastic Fan in the old vent's place. After the vent is securely mounted, you can use DICOR self leveling lap sealant around the flange. It covers the screw heads and flange edges. This product is sort of insurance on new installations (not for re-sealing), just an extra layer of protection. It is removable with elbow grease if repairs are needed.
It's hard to tell what was done on the roof edges from the picture. It almost looks as if the edge trim has been painted over. Of course you will want to re-putty edge trim (J rail, L trim, awning rail), so you will be able to see what has been done once that is removed. The putty should re-seal the trim and you probably won't need any other sealant.
NOTE: Many of us use OSI gutter sealant on skin flaws before putty. You can also apply a thin layer to the top edge of the trim but it's usually not necessary.
It's unlikely the roof seams need to be sealed, as they rarely leak, unless a fat guy has rolled around up there.There is Proflex brushable sealant made by Geocel that will fill gaps and cracks in the old silver slop and it also is self leveling. Paint over the seams 2 or 3 times after sanding and feathering. It will stick and is permanent. Do not coat the roof, just areas where the old sealant has deteriorated. And never use Proflex where future repairs may be needed. It's a good product but a patch. Be sparing.
After the above is done, lightly sand the roof metal and paint. I use Rusto oil based enamel. Rolled on, it goes on thick and covers up the patches.
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Post by 57heaven on Sept 23, 2019 7:57:43 GMT -8
Thank you for your input. I guess I am wondering why if the vent doesn't appear to be leaking now, why remove it as that seems to be overkill. I would think you would be running the risk of not getting it sealed perfectly the second time and then having a problem. I don't see why it wouldn't help to just add some more sealer to the cracks that have developed to give it extra protection? If there was roof damage then I could totally understand possibly removing the vent and starting over. Not being argumentative, just asking. Thank you.
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Post by debranch on Sept 23, 2019 10:01:59 GMT -8
At the end of the day you have to decide what you want to get out of your camper. Most of the folks on this site are working on their for keeps campers. The preventive maintenance you do to begin with will payoff for many years to come. Your working on a piece of American History. When these old girls are going we can’t get them back, Lots of the folks on here think the same way above the old classic cars. I’m trying to shed light on the mindset of the average person here, but maybe it’s just my opinion........... Debra
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Post by nccamper on Sept 23, 2019 12:27:02 GMT -8
I spent a week once covered in chemicals cleaning off silver goop on top of tar like sealer. I'll never do it again. Never.
If you want to keep the camper for years to come, call Hemet Valley RV and order a new roof. Or find somebody local with tractor trailer aluminum (for repairs) as a cheaper roof replacement option.
My feeling is that nobody ever put that much goop on a roof unless it was leaking.
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Post by 57heaven on Sept 23, 2019 16:46:26 GMT -8
There is zero water damage on the ceiling so I'm not putting a new roof on it. I guess I thought it would be a good idea to just touch up the visible cracks. If there was ceiling wood damage then I explore other options.
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Post by debranch on Sept 24, 2019 4:07:57 GMT -8
I guess I thought it would be a good idea to just touch up the visible cracks. If there was ceiling wood damage then I explore other options. Hi, I'm going to try and put this another way.... An old house has layers and layers of paint on it that is cracking and lifting...… Do you (1) Add yet another coat of paint directly on top of the old paint or, (2) Do prep work ie. remove loose flaking paint, scrap, sand to smooth out all the rough edges then apply an even coat of paint to get the best results you can get..... If you just add more goop on top its the equivalent of #1 and the more you add the heavier and thicker it gets, and don't forget that its a camper and it will move and crack again and again, and again...…….. so how often do you want to repeat the same job...… I dislike doing the same job over and over again myself...……….. Debra
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Post by WhitneyK on Sept 24, 2019 5:04:21 GMT -8
I guess I thought it would be a good idea to just touch up the visible cracks. If there was ceiling wood damage then I explore other options. Hi, I'm going to try and put this another way.... An old house has layers and layers of paint on it that is cracking and lifting...… Do you (1) Add yet another coat of paint directly on top of the old paint or, (2) Do prep work ie. remove loose flaking paint, scrap, sand to smooth out all the rough edges then apply an even coat of paint to get the best results you can get..... If you just add more goop on top its the equivalent of #1 and the more you add the heavier and thicker it gets, and don't forget that its a camper and it will move and crack again and again, and again...…….. so how often do you want to repeat the same job...… I dislike doing the same job over and over again myself...……….. Debra Well put Debra
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Post by aslmx on Sept 24, 2019 15:04:09 GMT -8
I was lucky. Someone painted my entire Shasta with the white roof crap. I got it off but did tremendous damage to the skin. I’ll have new skin in my future if I decide to keep mine.
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Post by 57heaven on Sept 24, 2019 16:49:05 GMT -8
Thanks for all the opinions. I think I'm going to leave it alone for now as it is not leaking to my knowledge and if it hasn't leaked in 62 years some one did something right. I've only had the trailer for two weeks and it's my first vintage one so I'm excited to just start cleaning up what I can. I really love it so far.
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