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Post by paxtonshasta on May 27, 2018 14:38:46 GMT -8
Ok my friends. I remember reading that removing the tires on these shasta's can be difficult but come on.....
I must be doing something wrong. I almost jacked it up so hight it tipped over, (j/k, but it feels like that) and it took me forever to squeeze the tire out from between the outer fender and hub. Now, after about 6 hours of working on the brakes on 1 side (thats a whooooole nuther story) I can't get the tire squeezed back in.
Can someone PLEASE tell me what I'm missing!
Thanks!
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Post by shastatom on May 27, 2018 16:11:16 GMT -8
I think some people have to let air out of the tire.
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Post by Ten on May 27, 2018 16:15:42 GMT -8
Don't put the jack under the axle, jack the frame up so that it stretches out the springs. It will allow the axle to drop a little more, and gives a small amount more clearance. These old gals were infamous for tight spaces in the wheel wells. Deflating the tire may also be required. You can see why you want to run good tires at all times, changing a flat on the road could be quite the process.
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Post by turbodaddy on May 27, 2018 18:09:20 GMT -8
As Ten said, changing a flat on the road can be daunting. Even "good" tires can be punctured. Always a good idea to do a dry run at home, before hitting the road. You may want to carry a couple sets of 4"x4" or 2"x4" blocks, at least two bottle jacks, and a couple of jack stands. Be sure to have a lug nut wrench that fits, and watch out for reversed threads on older trailers. I prefer to keep the trailer attached to the tow vehicle if possible, for more stability.
I have heard some people don't bother to carry a mounted spare because they are bulky, but we just leave it in the bed of the truck and hope never to have to use it.
We were lucky to have been in a city when I ran over a huge nail in a parking lot. The flat was on the tow vehicle. We were able to look for a tire place on (my wife's) smart phone and drive there in about 5 minutes before the tire went completely flat. The guy only charged $25 to jack it up, remove the tire, put in a plug and remount the tire. All done in about 30 minutes.
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Post by vikx on May 27, 2018 22:00:11 GMT -8
What year Shasta is it? Some (mainly older hams, 1500s) were not designed to wear brakes. I learned that the hard way with the twins Butch and Sundance. Sundance has larger tires with no problem, Butch, not so easy. We could NOT get the wheels off the trailer without great effort. We had to put the trailer on car jacks (high) and flatten the tires. Still, the skinny little tires would not clear the brake hubs. We had to drop the axle to prevent trailer damage.
I relocated the axle under the springs, and it might be just the ticket. Haven't finished the trailer yet, so it remains to be seen.
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Post by paxtonshasta on May 28, 2018 4:46:30 GMT -8
What year Shasta is it? Some (mainly older hams, 1500s) were not designed to wear brakes. I learned that the hard way with the twins Butch and Sundance. Sundance has larger tires with no problem, Butch, not so easy. We could NOT get the wheels off the trailer without great effort. We had to put the trailer on car jacks (high) and flatten the tires. Still, the skinny little tires would not clear the brake hubs. We had to drop the axle to prevent trailer damage. I relocated the axle under the springs, and it might be just the ticket. Haven't finished the trailer yet, so it remains to be seen. It’s a 62 airflyte. 16ft. It had electric brakes when we got it so I assumed it was factory. After all that time I ended putting the original brake assembly back on since it tested ok. And I will return the ones I bought. I will try the deflating method since it’s already sitting on a stand. I have to get it rolling again sonwe can move to California with our Shasta in tow. The long trek is why I wanted to get all the brakes hooked up and a break away switch installed.
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Post by vikx on May 28, 2018 10:19:22 GMT -8
I've seen Airflytes with over large tires; some are difficult even flat. If that works, be sure to purchase a "toy spare" with the correct lug pattern. You don't want to be on the side of the road trying to mount a big wheel and tire. Also, you might consider purchasing smaller tires.
I replaced the tires on my Deluxe with the same size and discovered why there were rub marks on the top of the wheel wells... barely an inch of clearance. Dropped down a size and all was good.
You're right, Airflytes did come with brakes. I think Butch's brakes were special order and the factory built the trailer around the already mounted tires. No worries once it left the factory. Sundance had 205s which mounted OK flat.
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Post by paxtonshasta on May 28, 2018 10:39:06 GMT -8
I was able to get the tire on by completely deflating it. And even then it took some effort.
I already have a spare, but it’s a full size. So I hate to get rid of it and look for a smaller one.....
But I will have to figure something out.
Thanks!
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Post by paxtonshasta on May 30, 2018 3:55:01 GMT -8
I was thinking of buying a 12v air compressor to reinflate the spare once it’s been installed in case of a flat. Harbor freight has a 100 psi one for like 25 bucks. Thoughts on that plan?
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Post by kudzu on May 30, 2018 7:04:59 GMT -8
I am reading this and just amazed. Are people putting larger tires on here creating this problem? Or changing axles?
I am find it hard to believe that they came from the factory this way and have to assume that owners are changing something and creating the problem. Am I wrong??
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Post by vikx on May 30, 2018 22:12:07 GMT -8
Wheels were made differently back in the day. They didn't have to clear disc brakes, for one thing, so the offset is different. Also tires were bias and narrower than radials. These little old trailers were not designed for modern wheels and radials, that's why we are having problems.
Butch is one in a thousand; I'm almost sure the trailer was built around the mounted wheels and special order.
Aristocrat Loliners are a special case as well. The front spring bracket interferes with newer wheels and tires, causing blow outs. Ask me how I know this. I've cut the corner off 3 brackets and cured the problem. Folks just don't realize how close the clearances were when our trailers came from the factory.
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