SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 17, 2013 7:15:03 GMT -8
Just thought I'd share my experience. I know Mobiltec has a tool pictured in the "Tools" section for removing screws but if that doesn't work for you, you might try this. First my experience. We were removing the eyebrows over the windows and some of the screws were rusted and corroded and the screw driver couldn't grip. My hubby drilled the head off of one, took a long time but worked until he tried the second one and the screw driver slipped just as I said, "I have a better idea." I now have a hole in my skin to repair . Here's my better idea and it worked beautifully on the pan head screws. I used my diamond blade cutting tool with my Dremel and cut a new slot so a flat head would turn it. Only took a few seconds on each screw head and made things go much faster.
|
|
mobiltec
5K Member
I make mistakes so you don't have to...
Posts: 9,822
Likes: 3,749
1954 Jewel In Progress...
Currently Offline
|
Post by mobiltec on Nov 17, 2013 21:35:26 GMT -8
I'm going to have to try that. I just have bad luck with things like grinders and cutters. I always end up messing up the skin or something.
|
|
SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 17, 2013 21:57:14 GMT -8
I'm going to have to try that. I just have bad luck with things like grinders and cutters. I always end up messing up the skin or something. I didn't dare let my husband try. The screws were all in the rails so, if I did slip, it wasn't like I was going to cut the skin. And it takes a good bit of pressure to actually cut. I was pretty proud of myself.
|
|
soup
1K Member
"I hate cold Soup"
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 204
Currently Offline
|
Post by soup on Nov 18, 2013 7:26:52 GMT -8
I cringe every time I start a new project unit with old Phillips screws. It usually means I have to cut a slot in every screw head. Total bummer. I like the old hex head screws better. You only usually have to cut slots in a few of those and not every one like the Phillips.
|
|
61 Shasta
Active Member
Doing what I want as soon as she wants me to
Posts: 200
Likes: 38
Currently Offline
|
Post by 61 Shasta on Nov 18, 2013 8:13:36 GMT -8
I have used that method, however, I found that using a small diamond tipped dremel grinder to clean out the phillips heads worked great. Once the "crap" was cleaned out, usually but not always, the screws backed out. I will post a picture if anyone is interested. I also used a screw extractor tool in part of them, especially on the skirt area.
|
|
SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 18, 2013 8:22:52 GMT -8
I have used that method, however, I found that using a small diamond tipped dremel grinder to clean out the phillips heads worked great. Once the "crap" was cleaned out, usually but not always, the screws backed out. I will post a picture if anyone is interested. I also used a screw extractor tool in part of them, especially on the skirt area. The ones under the eyebrow had "crap" in them but the others were just rusted out. When I went to Lowe's they were out of the screw extractor tool; Lowe's is all we have here. And I said what the heck, I'm doing just fine anyway. But I'll keep checking. I'm sure I'll make many more trips to Lowe's. 61, do you have any pics of the back and/or front of yours with the skins off? I'd like to see what your curbing looked like originally. I'm going to post some pics of mine in the restoration section. Oh, and I've come to the conclusion that I have a 60 or an early 61. I have derived this theory from researching the Compacts without front marker lights. 60 doesn't seem to have them, some 61's do and some don't. Also, mine was made in Northridge, CA which was the original factory before PA and others so that part fits the timeline. Still waiting to pull the front out and find "something". I just have to know. My husband has warmed up to her and the idea of restoring. He was actually working in Northridge when we met, so now he has a connection to her, haha!
|
|
|
Post by bigbill on Nov 18, 2013 11:54:57 GMT -8
A little tip for removing rusty hex head screws. All sockets all made with a small taper at the opening to allow them to slip on easier, Take the socket and hold it square to the side of a grinding wheel and grind the tapered part off this allows contact with the screw clear to the bottom against the shoulder giving you a much better shot of removing the screws. also I use a power drill to turn the screws out it is not only faster and easier it allows you to hold the socket straight.
|
|
SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 18, 2013 14:42:41 GMT -8
Thanks, Big Bill! Maybe I'll get to use that bench grinder that I gave my husband for Christmas last year that's still in the box!. So far, I haven't run into any hex screws. Panheads, nails and an occasional rivet.
|
|
hoosierpoet
Active Member
Posts: 187
Likes: 18
Currently Offline
|
Post by hoosierpoet on Nov 18, 2013 15:06:33 GMT -8
I removed all 900+ screws from my '61 Airflyte, and learned a few tricks. First, if you spray rusty screws with PB Blaster, by the next day you'll be able to remove a good 80 percent of them with a screwdriver. Give a reluctant screw a good whack to loosen it: Put a regular screwdriver into the slot and hit the end of the screwdriver handle with a hammer. (This really does work!) And channel-locks work well on screws with stripped heads. I only had to drill out 3 screws on the entire trailer.
|
|
|
Post by bigbill on Nov 18, 2013 15:54:21 GMT -8
My 1500 had all hex heads and once i got out my ground down socket they all came right out with no problem, I guess I just live under a lucky star.
|
|
mobiltec
5K Member
I make mistakes so you don't have to...
Posts: 9,822
Likes: 3,749
1954 Jewel In Progress...
Currently Offline
|
Post by mobiltec on Nov 18, 2013 17:13:27 GMT -8
Mine are not only rusty, they are filled in with paint too. Between the two I have found that a couple of wacks on the side with a flat screw driver like Hoosierpoet says, and then using the screw removal pliers is working well. I have never had to drill out a screw on an aluminum trailer. That could change on this one though LOL..... Isn't this stuff fun?
|
|
SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 18, 2013 17:40:01 GMT -8
I do think this is fun. I think taking it apart is a lot of fun. I'm not so sure about the putting it back together. Stay tuned.
My trailer has very little paint left on it, none on the screws. Even the putty tape had disintegrated on a lot of of it. I think the twisty screws may prove to be the biggest challenge for me. I did have that "What have I gotten myself into" moment today when I realized I'm replacing a whole lot more than I imagined. What's good at the top is rotten at the bottom and what's rotten at the bottom is good at the top.
|
|
61 Shasta
Active Member
Doing what I want as soon as she wants me to
Posts: 200
Likes: 38
Currently Offline
|
Post by 61 Shasta on Nov 18, 2013 19:20:38 GMT -8
SuzieQ, the link below will take you to my resto picture album. As with a lot of these sites, the first pictures are the last pictures so go to the end to see the ones you are asking about. There are, I 123 pictures in this album so have fun. I have started the resto story on another site but it will be awhile before it is done. Being retired, I only have a limited amount of time to spend on the computer!!!!!!!!!!!! 1961shastacompactrestoration.shutterfly.com/pictures/8
|
|
SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 18, 2013 20:12:20 GMT -8
SuzieQ, the link below will take you to my resto picture album. As with a lot of these sites, the first pictures are the last pictures so go to the end to see the ones you are asking about. There are, I 123 pictures in this album so have fun. I have started the resto story on another site but it will be awhile before it is done. Being retired, I only have a limited amount of time to spend on the computer!!!!!!!!!!!! 1961shastacompactrestoration.shutterfly.com/pictures/8I looked at everyone of them, thanks. You've done a great job! Looks like the original curbing was like mine, with the slats on the inside of it. I plan on replacing it like you did, and like Larry did in his Shasta video. Now I feel like I'm on the right track.
|
|
SusieQ
Global Moderator
Posts: 4,781
Likes: 1,197
'62 Shasta Compact
Currently Offline
|
Post by SusieQ on Nov 18, 2013 20:29:25 GMT -8
|
|